From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12943: 24.2.50; switch to help buffer with > 3-window-split Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:54:28 +0100 Message-ID: <549BECE4.20004@gmx.at> References: <87obisa1ja.fsf@gmail.com> <50AB918C.6060109@gmx.at> <877gpg1gsy.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419504924 14530 80.91.229.3 (25 Dec 2014 10:55:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12943-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vitalie Spinu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 25 11:55:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y464a-0008BD-Lc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:55:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50587 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y464Z-0001Ao-Vx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:55:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55605) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y464V-00019L-QV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:55:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y464O-00023C-7x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y464O-00022Z-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y464O-0000PU-0W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:55:04 -0500 Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:55:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 12943 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 12943@debbugs.gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, spinuvit@gmail.com Original-Received: via spool by 12943-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12943.14195048791515 (code D ref 12943); Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:55:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12943-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2014 10:54:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y463y-0000OM-R9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:54:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:62097) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y463w-0000O5-0F for 12943-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 05:54:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [88.117.118.144] ([88.117.118.144]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lk8CY-1XS0Lw46pu-00cC4C; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:54:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877gpg1gsy.fsf@gmail.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:oDGkD3BjJcfPmk0p7WxqfctUHeRW8hspixmCDVCMdX8IRtT/9DZ Qs5gMBzpUUn1qq/TwSMvAQB/apBiybMs5m39itj2nRNRFh2cW0MpkbGUH9AWMnhEVISiXA7 XfjsjwEeuyjNMYbSli5JtBBoxIWsTDkwTek/uLczJdiRzzQ/wIR0Q9ihdRFOEJxmTCMABtW XSiUR3qGJ3KVy2O81nTvw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97715 Archived-At: > >> If I have only one window in a frame. C-h v ... RET opens a help buffer, but > >> does not switch to it. Same with 2 windows in a frame. > >> > >> If I have a 3-window-split, C-h v ... RET pops to the help buffer. This > >> is a bit annoying and might be indicative of some more severe underlying > >> problem. > >> > >> I hope this is not an intended behavior. > > > See bug#11039. > > Hm, the default 'other of help-window-select is inconsistent and aims a > very specific user pattern. > > From http://debbugs.gnu.org/db/11/11039.html: > > martin rudalics gmx.at> writes: > > > When the help window is one out of three windows on a frame and you do > > _not_ select it, it's quite difficult to restore the state of the frame > > before showing help. You would have to (1) manually switch to the help > > window, (2) type "q" in it, and maybe (3) switch back to the previously > > selected window. If, however, you _do_ select the help window, you can > > simply type "q" in it and get back the old state of affairs. > > > I might want to keep the help window open for long and keep working on > my code while referencing the help. This is my 99% usage pattern. > > Now, when I open the help buffer I have to switch back to my working > window all the way back through 3 other windows. Awful. The default value of `help-window-select' is now nil on master/trunk. Closing this bug. Thanks, martin