From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19012: 25.0.50; `help-window-select' Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:28:19 +0100 Message-ID: <5460F5B3.6040402@gmx.at> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415640578 4008 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2014 17:29:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:29:38 +0000 (UTC) To: Drew Adams , 19012@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 18:29:31 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XnsmG-0003V3-E5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:29:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44375 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XnsmG-0000vo-1Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:29:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnsm5-0000tU-Kc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:29:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnsly-0003In-3q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:29:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnsly-0003Ih-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:29:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xnslx-0006Nv-QM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:29:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19012 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19012-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19012.141564050624464 (code B ref 19012); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19012) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2014 17:28:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XnslO-0006MW-40 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:28:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:59894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XnslL-0006MG-Dt for 19012@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [88.117.81.84] ([88.117.81.84]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0McEDD-1XY8Wo3KT9-00JbIY; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:28:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jTWIbVm/E3Nici9DVxjQ2RT1Daj52z+gA0nGMoOgIOnaVTTTdn8 rAk/iaa8J8pqmp1UisChAYX0x0X5QlN/qFY++hQtYhVYug3HowUGLBBWsNVBJ9jwU1+uQ8M xNqDSprRDhQtM2MMVK1bKtx5x1h28PQks+bM9LpcUAs7PwkRogpbCBv6Hi5Ew0EbwgNdPJM 4oy6ALVuaSCRIHHv/XUnA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95822 > The description of `other' in the Customize buffer (and the doc string) > is incorrect. Or else the behavior is bugged. > > If *Help* is shown in its own frame (e.g. from *Help* being a > special-display buffer), and if the option value is `other' (the > default), then the *Help* window (and frame) are *not* selected, in > contradiction to what the doc says. > > On MS Windows, at least, if the *Help* frame in this context does not > yet exist then yes, that frame (and thus the *Help* window is selected - > the frame gets the input focus. But that is because Windows always > gives a newly created frame the focus. And if the frame exists already > then no, the *Help* window and its frame are not selected. Focus stays > with the frame where you invoked the help command. It does get selected here on Windows XP. What happens when you set `help-window-select' to t? Did you create the *Help* window with `with-help-window'? If so, please tell me the value of the 'quit-restore window parameter of the *Help* window. > Note too that the description is anyway inadequate, because it seems to > make the assumption that there *is* another window on the help window's > frame: "unless the selected window is the only other window on the help > window's frame" is not clear for the case where there is no such other > window. When there is "no such other window" the selected window "is not the only other window on the help window's frame". What am I missing? martin