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But may be we should write (and pixelwise frame-resize-pixelwise)) and say If PIXELWISE and `frame-resize-pixelwise' are both non-nil and FRAME's terminal is not text-only, use the pixel size of FRAME for the cloned frame. Otherwise, use the number of columns and lines of FRAME for the cloned frame. Setting PIXELWISE to t in a setting where 'frame-resize-pixelwise' is nil means asking for trouble since the window manager might not honor it. WDYT? martin