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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: "Fabián E. Gallina" <fabian@anue.biz>, 18228@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#18228: 24.4.50; electrict-indent-mode bad indentation in python-mode
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:05:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E9BCCB.5020304@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzjfaqw4s.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

On 12.08.2014 04:40, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>> But what should electric-indent do than?
>>> No re-indent upon : when it's not 100% sure of the result.
>> Which sums up to switch it off.
>
> Not to switch off electric-indent, no (it's enabled globally).

Python modes should switch it off by default.

Using electric features with Python effectively requires a certain level of experience with Emacs and Python alike.
Nonetheless - nice play.

>
> And presumably the : was made to re-indent because in some/many cases
> there is only 1 correct indentation (and the code is able to find it).
> I don't know if the code is also able to detect when it's correct and
> when it's not,

In Python indent is meaning - at least sometimes.
A reliable electric-indent must know what the programmer wants to write, predict his decision.

There are some special cases, where its possible.
In a lot of other cases not.

Alltogether, when digging in here, you run in a complex matter where artificial intelligence might deliver some progress indeed - which seems fairly out of scope giving the 
resources when maintaining/developing Emacs' python-modes.

IMO it would be a waste of time investing here.

but if it is, then we don't need to disable the "reindent
> on :" in all cases.
>
>
>          Stefan
>






  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-12  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-09 10:00 bug#18228: 24.4.50; electrict-indent-mode bad indentation in python-mode Jorgen Schaefer
2014-08-11  7:11 ` Andreas Röhler
2014-08-11 14:45   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-11 17:18     ` Andreas Röhler
2014-08-12  2:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-12  7:05         ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2014-08-12 14:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-27 19:34             ` Matthew Woodcraft
2014-08-28  6:05               ` Andreas Röhler
2014-08-28 19:00                 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2014-09-01 23:11           ` Fabián Ezequiel Gallina
2014-09-01 22:53 ` Fabián Ezequiel Gallina

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