From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17671: 24.3.91; RET on a link in *Help* buffer resizes *Help* Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:41:53 +0200 Message-ID: <538D9861.6070608@gmx.at> References: <83k38z9mlr.fsf@gnu.org> <538D7794.7050303@gmx.at> <837g4ya0yf.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401788615 21078 80.91.229.3 (3 Jun 2014 09:43:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17671@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 03 11:43:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlFa-00066q-Bz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:43:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlFa-0007Av-2H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlFO-0006wu-8a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:43:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlFG-00077j-Pi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:43:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlFG-000775-N7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlFG-0003Le-8p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17671 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17671-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17671.140178853012781 (code B ref 17671); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17671) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2014 09:42:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41613 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlEQ-0003K4-0L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64306) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrlEN-0003JY-O2 for 17671@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 05:42:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.166.84.179] ([194.166.84.179]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MgGDK-1XDGd41FXa-00NjrN; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 11:42:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <837g4ya0yf.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:UwMu94UxQHguC/N4PDG/MT52E4UrlzkOjo85yqpJq2Y35eJh7B0 VT6yOTLJhqCS3e/fOWpEv39dmBj4HK/oaOqlZiOIaOu+N01GIC6ssMqM8WOAMeEqbmp/yhd XZvurzZEywibIHrhOtck5wBT5k+EndSJ9pCELvyCFVSKyIU8RoB6nVdYXuBh1HFEYY/Nlwv RHXHJQnWp3mSePku4pApA== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89935 Archived-At: >> `temp-buffer-resize-mode' would do that automatically. > > Then perhaps we should turn on that mode by default. ISTR that some people dislike `temp-buffer-resize-mode'. > So this means that as long as the links in *Help* point to the same > file which is already displayed in the window above *Help*, the size > will stick, ... because in that case the window already shows that buffer ... > but as soon as another file is displayed in the window > above *Help*, we get a resize, is that right? Only if that window was used by `display-buffer' before. That window could have been made very small, for example, when used for displaying *Help* and in such case people would probably protest that we use a ridiculously small LRU-window for displaying a buffer. There was at least one bug report bemoaning that IIRC. > That's a really > annoying inconsistency, IMO. > Is it possible to do something special for the specific scenario I > described, i.e. when a *Help* link causes a buffer to be displayed? Usually, doing so causes a problem in another area soon. Maybe we should not _decrease_ the size of a window when displaying another buffer in it - this would take care of your use case. > Or maybe the window showing *Help* should be small by default; taking > half of its frame is really gross, IMO. It is especially annoying in > "emacs -Q", which starts with a small frame. This is really what `temp-buffer-resize-mode' is for. martin