From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 14:14:14 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <53640AA6.8080709@cs.ucla.edu> References: <<<52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org>> <<52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org>> < <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l4w5pj.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83ha9jv5lh.fsf@gnu.org>> < <838uuvum9n.fsf@gnu.org>> < <8338l2v1tn.fsf@gnu.org>> <<52C9BA68.7050703@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp2tcqx.fsf@gnu.org>> <<52C9BCBF.7050904@cs.ucla.edu> <83eh4mtc52.fsf@gnu.org>> <<52C9E53D.8070106@cs.ucla.edu> <838uutu5mu.fsf@gnu.org>> <<52CA3FB9.30509@cs.ucla.edu> <834n5ht7bz.fsf@gnu.org>> <<52CB5517.4030502@cs.ucla.edu>> <<83lhyssawf.fsf@gnu.org>> <5363ECDA.8050305@cs.ucla.edu> <57f18f83-5ac5-4bde-8268-ba89f159c676@default> <536401DB.7080606@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:88551 Archived-At: On 05/02/2014 01:53 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > FWIW, I have received this info from him: I built from source with > makinfo 5.2. However, makeinfo 5.2 works fine for Emacs pretest (emacs > 24.3.90), but not for Emacs trunk (24.4.50): bzr branch > bzr://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/emacs/trunk Here are the steps to build: - > ./configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk - make - sudo make install Works for me, with makeinfo 5.2. I see curly quotes in the info files when I configure and build and install with that recipe. If it's failing for him we need to know what the failure is and how to reproduce it. > What does old vs new texinfo refer to? Did you perhaps mean old vs new > makeinfo? If not, how does he tell whether he has "old" or "new" Texinfo? 'makeinfo --version'. The makeinfo command is part of the texinfo package. > Is the problem just for `...' vs '...' or ‘...’? Not sure what you mean by "the problem", but other characters are affected, yes. > What about Lisp (and other) code, where we use ", ', and `, and none > of those should be changed to a curly version of the same? Shouldn't be a problem, as those characters should not be changed. Makeinfo can determine this from the markup in the .texi file. > ' ' (i.e., NO-BREAK SPACE, U+00A0) '真' (i.e., Han character 'real, > actual, true, genuine', U+771F) ¤ © ¬ » À Å ß à á ä å ç è é ê ì í ï ò > ó ö ø ü ć č ł ń ő Š š – — ‘ ’ “ ” • … → ↦ ⇒ − ≡ ⊣ ★ > Not sure why you let me know this (but I'm glad to have it). A priori, > I have no problem with any such chars in an Info buffer. Any problems > that I would have would I think come from substituting chars that > currently have particular meaning to Info (or to Lisp etc. - see above). Some of those characters do have a particular meaning. For example, • is used for bulleted lists instead of *, so if info+.el is keying only off "*" (for old texinfo) it'll need to change to support new texinfo. Other characters are used for output displays.