From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17046: 24.3.50; On startup emacs frame has no minibuffer or windows decorations Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:14 +0100 Message-ID: <532D5A7E.7010700@gmx.at> References: <87bnx1me40.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> <532ABA74.5060206@gmx.at> <21290.56690.254740.791923@capuchin.co.uk> <532AE836.2030907@gmx.at> <21290.64241.176419.931155@capuchin.co.uk> <532B4016.7010508@gmx.at> <21291.20160.94341.637290@capuchin.co.uk> <532BF24A.6090703@gmx.at> <21292.6903.499178.348@capuchin.co.uk> <532C5595.2090800@gmx.at> <21292.28324.463848.983080@capuchin.co.uk> <532C7A06.6080703@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395481278 19240 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 09:41:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17046@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Marshall To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 10:41:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQg-0002Ac-3I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:41:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56272 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQf-0001g8-Om for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48009) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQT-0001I1-Ey for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQI-0000y8-SG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQI-0000xr-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIQI-0006D3-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:41:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17046 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17046-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17046.139548122623812 (code B ref 17046); Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17046) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2014 09:40:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIPg-0006By-AF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:62947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WRIPe-0006Bo-AX for 17046@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 05:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [188.22.111.104] ([188.22.111.104]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lkzph-1WzGFj1s2v-00ajiW; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:40:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:WWQCP4XJ9bqOuqGPho0kY9HNiRX0TNWtdaPFeLlNNFuvmF2G5nm MfqkWa+USZmyUbSJihZgbKPobvWODI5Bys52m1cG1n4LIQ3k/HXWKkpjnPcJb+NPpYrayFB H84FUP355sFqP2KAqBS0X6A3fcbqc0j9iMwlhCQ5x2bneeLP0PYm31if4J3EqblyYQ2zGph LUflLyo2qi2Rz7IxjnyuA== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87141 Archived-At: > 1) Put Emacs in the maximized state, or whatever is that is giving > trouble (just one frame). I don't understand - was it Robert's problem that he wanted to save the Emacs desktop with a maximized frame? I only thought that _after restoring_ the desktop, maximizing the frame didn't restore minibuffer and title line. So unless Robert says that this is the problem let's skip (1). > 2) Exit Emacs (saving the desktop) > 3) Copy the "(setq desktop-saved-frameset ...)" line from .emacs.desktop > 4) emacs -Q Robert please try here both variants with and without -Q so we can see whether something in your .emacs has any impact. > 5) paste the (setq desktop-saved-frameset ...) sexp into *scratch* and eval it > 6) eval the following: > (frameset-restore desktop-saved-frameset > :reuse-frames t > :cleanup-frames t > :force-onscreen t) > > Then, repeat from 4) on, with the same desktop-saved-frameset value as > before, but call frameset-restore with :force-onscreen nil (or without > that line, nil is the default). > > Assuming that the problem reappears doing that, at least we have a > frameset that causes it, and then we can look into it and try to > understand what happens. Thanks. This is what I had in mind with "deferring loading the desktop file until you have seen your initial frame". If we can repeat the problem this way, we can use the debugger. martin