From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17046: 24.3.50; On startup emacs frame has no minibuffer or windows decorations Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: <532B4016.7010508@gmx.at> References: <87bnx1me40.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> <532ABA74.5060206@gmx.at> <21290.56690.254740.791923@capuchin.co.uk> <532AE836.2030907@gmx.at> <21290.64241.176419.931155@capuchin.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395343454 32246 80.91.229.3 (20 Mar 2014 19:24:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17046@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Marshall Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 20 20:24:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiZh-00065G-2V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:24:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48922 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiZg-0000zV-JI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:24:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiZV-0000zA-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiZO-0003yV-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiZO-0003yR-Em for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiZO-0001jU-6G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17046 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17046-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17046.13953434016585 (code B ref 17046); Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17046) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Mar 2014 19:23:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42662 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiYi-0001i8-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:23:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:49412) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WQiYf-0001hv-9M for 17046@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:23:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [188.22.40.199] ([188.22.40.199]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDE6y-1WLHZd2vtM-00GbE3; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:23:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: <21290.64241.176419.931155@capuchin.co.uk> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:nvRYDw/BdDp9xG58b3cM4SU9Mdd3x1ddTeupu5eRBEreGEZISfP QgwBNzPSBzQSDX79xSXyy1MsbBGlme4Zl1sdgKawA09HrrLmNL/ze8hEE3w9mYo7VRvwUfA jNjmh8ESIinl1UEHoA3S5eTRulak/u2lnsI2MZ7LU6xyQ1a3+LE5Vyn6ljydM48ZFPKvkIl NqqQFrwm5uj9GlptxTRcw== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87061 Archived-At: > > Thanks. According to that dump you should see the minibuffer. > > Definitely no minibuffer, I had to do the M-: commands very carefully > as I couldn't see what I was typing! Sorry, I forgot. You can always insert such text in *scratch* and evaluate it there. > (sorry I wasn't sure if you needed to do something special to > associate an image with a bug report, I'm just attaching it to the > email) I'm attaching the screenshot together with a normal emacs frame > for comparison Very good. It's still a complete mystery to me how the title line can disappear. Usually this happens only when the window manager thinks (because Emacs told him) that the frame is fullscreen. > I'm running with a fairly standard kde plasma desktop - so the bit > above the menu bar is all missing (and the left hand frame is the > faulty one) > > > > And what happens when you maximize the > > frame and restore its normal size immediately afterwards? > > > > Ah now that's interesting! When I maximize - selecting the relevant > frame in the toolbar and using that popup WM menu option (I've also > tried using M- and get the same result) the frame moves to the > top left of the screen but *doesn't* maximise it remains (AFAICT) > the same size and the minibuffer now disappears! Sorry. How can a non-existent minibuffer disappear? > With no minibuffer I > then get > > # > > for the frame parameter. When I take off maximisation the minibuffer > is restored - but still no window decorations. Is this a kde/plasma > bug - or maybe a gtk/plasma bug? As a rule, the title bar should disappear if and only if Emacs asked for the frame to become fullscreen where it doesn't matter if the frame actually is fullscreen. For example, here on Windows I can make a frame fullscreen via F11, maximize and demaximize it via Windows commands and get a normal-sized frame without title. So far I've not been able to produce a similar behavior on GTK. martin