From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48249: 28.0.50; Regression: emacs confused about window configuration due to ido-mode and/or winner-mode Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 11:48:03 +0000 Message-ID: <531453ddd6b11fb0aa2a@heytings.org> References: <87zgx8wmew.fsf@secretsauce.net> <531453ddd62d1011193c@heytings.org> <831rakffuj.fsf@gnu.org> <531453ddd66aad05f4af@heytings.org> <83pmy4dwv1.fsf@gnu.org> <531453ddd625bf0ea1b9@heytings.org> <83im3wdv8b.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15124"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48249@debbugs.gnu.org, dima@secretsauce.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 06 13:49:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lecVf-0003oB-Cv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 13:49:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40198 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lecVe-0003Qo-F2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52604) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lecV4-000335-2k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54139) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lecV3-0001q9-QD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lecV3-0003hK-NV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:49:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 11:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48249 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48249-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48249.162030168714196 (code B ref 48249); Thu, 06 May 2021 11:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48249) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2021 11:48:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37452 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lecUA-0003gu-Vo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:40134) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lecU9-0003go-Ak for 48249@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 May 2021 07:48:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1620301683; bh=OjzRBFRF74CGRZ3e7C/xP54lUc6sSWgBrLFUbrSFMWQ=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=sOaRtTtFNYv1AdC7LuJqGuetCg+UKuWQnbPDJax0b42oVjCkmlaGWXbSVqW0jsMM5 UpunLgRbmPwGjDS4n9iuL12gaQrXnuwUcgdrM8sRBhAjr6zuFA/BcPXQbNrgmIOke/ xRpMerb+sM0GBkhfLW37wEGQ8wNMZKw2+5q7BwHm5l+b0fVUsFgRYcSw0HVpz9psM1 Z3+g2l+ffmzCN+HAxQ/RaAvBQc1/WNpJyK1/tUiqN4RsROLu9wS5OFAI1o+Mh/eGX3 BY16FIdb4qLfLn08ly0vbNenM4lxmedB3vg5TpWCIlJ5HXFyARLIpiZYYb748f5SX3 HcPjkALuYSbCg== In-Reply-To: <83im3wdv8b.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205825 Archived-At: >>> More generally, that's development for you; without risking such >>> destabilization from time to time we can never afford significant >>> improvements. The important question is: will the new-and-improved >>> behavior be useful or won't it? >> >> Indeed perhaps the most important question here is: is this a >> "significant improvement"? IMO, the answer is clearly "no". > > I know, and I think that opinion makes your judgment of the results too > severe. > That's possible, indeed. But so far I haven't seen a single concrete example that demonstrates that this feature is either (a) necessary in some circumstances (as was bidirectional editing support), or (b) not necessary but at least useful in some circumstances.