From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15117: 24.3.50; doc of `(forward|backward)-*': state return value Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:26:48 +0100 Message-ID: <52FA7978.7070007@easy-emacs.de> References: <1dc76f7a-5481-41df-b976-ec22229d7283@default> <874n4a42f0.fsf@building.gnus.org> <1281d0fd-77cb-45e2-b99d-f4ad24b0fc4e@default> <2fefcbaf-9417-4f57-93af-490ea73aea98@default> <68a64949-d801-4d09-8dc8-4b6ae0824855@default> <8361oltxu1.fsf@gnu.org> <67b917ca-8b69-49fd-9e12-68da310f7567@default> <52FA6F2C.3010602@easy-emacs.de> <83zjlxscgs.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392146591 20709 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2014 19:23:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15117@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 11 20:23:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIvO-00055I-9j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:23:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35584 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIvN-0004Ed-SS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:23:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIvE-0004EM-LK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:23:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIv8-0001qM-Ff for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:23:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIv8-0001qG-CB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:23:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIv7-0006gm-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:23:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15117 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 15117-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15117.139214657625697 (code B ref 15117); Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:23:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 19:22:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47852 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIuz-0006gL-HN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:22:55 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:59854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDIuu-0006g0-7L for 15117@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from purzel.sitgens (brln-4d0c6463.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.100.99]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreue104) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M1XmT-1VKdxp3fLd-00tXIN; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:22:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83zjlxscgs.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:K7o08xZ3RGiTRAtG8r24yXuRDLWB9tBCpSioywP47ZV 6ypKeCzCaACf/Sx/kvVaQgOnD/q+2+l5vHMS/PRX83h8NN0F+k pkgkPJr9tVN/yllp3uH+KQjhBEcYJ97snoVTQoK4pPOqOWbhwf WWbHX4FaIa7Y6dwQqrJ1OKhD8UWj4VwuUxYuRHy6lqPm+yDAd0 EwUBN56stA0ud3gWmYkclU2bzOzcPKkvfKwtkEZMeMuXmkHGWY YuSh9tmUfJun/PKVfDyPgsr/beA3UpJ8SmjqPPnmIFGbAtGu4h 0ExG2lzcc1b636GNghGJvGw7kDl4ftzNX1FzKta39mBoYxq7zX 0atuwwAEqEL9LgSviXq1odTuWQYazuWnUQw1OfQQ4 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85405 Archived-At: Am 11.02.2014 19:58, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:42:52 +0100 >> From: Andreas Röhler >> >> IMO these functions should return point if successful, i.e. if point was moved, but nil otherwise, for example at EOB. > > Why point? E.g., forward-to-indentation could returns the column > where it ended up, forward-same-syntax could return the syntax class, > forward-visible-line could return the number of screen lines > traversed, etc. > > Once again, the potentially useful value might well be different for > each function, and needs to be considered separately for each. > There's no "one fits all" here. > > Agreed. Saying "these" was a way too general.