From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:45:51 +0100 Message-ID: <52E28AAF.2030803@gmx.at> References: <52D14E9F.5030001@gmx.at> <52D16627.4080604@gmx.at> <52D2661A.4000105@gmx.at> <90f208e1-9ab5-4b8c-9e4c-2dddf8c1868b@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390578370 10572 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2014 15:46:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Leo Liu , 16038@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 24 16:46:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ixV-0002BV-BA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:46:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ixU-0004VT-KC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:46:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58579) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ixM-0004U5-Bf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ixG-0001uy-GZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:46:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ixG-0001uu-Cc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ixG-0001vH-20 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16038 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16038-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16038.13905783567372 (code B ref 16038); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2014 15:45:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34693 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ix9-0001uq-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:45:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:52246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ix7-0001ud-OI for 16038@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 10:45:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.47.46.45] ([62.47.46.45]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjqLx-1VZr6v30yP-00bpT5 for <16038@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:45:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <90f208e1-9ab5-4b8c-9e4c-2dddf8c1868b@default> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qvrQA6NFKVZIyFqyuCcQaPrbZZfoNndO2Rf59DP9cZf6lIE81xp S2sjFQWOnZROn5iIGMlAPjgy4oAFfOeQ+qi6AxAqtlA1nEgaav53jm2ZOTip0tCbXTDm+u4 S1O7fbZCxHhN8LPg+ihISrdgkx2YlBrUZZ427/jtpcYCrbV15314JqJSvPNBMGwYuOCyYZg VPqE0Nxm9FKUfMJxL/Y9g== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83939 Archived-At: > Yes, clearly. I got that. But why would you even consider > `with-temp-buffer-window', rather than `with-output-to-temp-buffer', as > the end target of your consolidation? > > Incorporate whatever you feel you need to into > `with-output-to-temp-buffer', as long as "no feature is lost" from it. > But please do not consider deprecating `with-output-to-temp-buffer'. > It was that possibility that was mentioned and that I replied to. > > If you feel that you need to deprecate something here, deprecate the > new addition, `with-temp-buffer-window', which has hardly been used > anywhere. The same author wrote in http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8368 Sounds good to me. My only proposal in that regard was to create an alias with a better name (e.g. `...-help-...'), and deprecate `with-output-to-temp-buffer' to encourage use of the new name. martin, who couldn't resist