From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:23:03 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <52C8EC37.1020201@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l4w5pj.fsf@gnu.org> <83ha9jv5lh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C874B2.9010903@cs.ucla.edu> <83eh4nv4j7.fsf@gnu.org> <52C89954.909@cs.ucla.edu> <8361pzum1d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:23:03 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <8361pzum1d.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82977 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > There's no expertise involved in "make info". Typical Emacs users don't run 'make info'. And even for the few who do run it, it does nothing unless they also edit a .texi file, which is something typical users also are unlikely to do. The rare user who's expert enough to edit the manual, run 'make info', and care about how the resulting quotes look, should be able to understand and act on suggestions either to use Texinfo 4 or to update to the post-freeze trunk. > My suggestion solves more potential problems I'm afraid not. Avoiding @documentencoding causes Texinfo 5 to mishandle UTF-8 characters when generating formats such as HTML, so that's a non-starter. And both it and --disable-encoding cause the regression that Drew noted. So it'd be unwise to use either approach postfreeze when we build the tarball's Info files with Texinfo 5 -- and these are the most commonly-used Info files.