From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:45:14 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <52C89D0A.7030204@cs.ucla.edu> References: <<"<20131229220810.GF7972"@boo.workgroup>> <<"<83sita1cbw.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<83fvpa16kh.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<8338l91l2t.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<837gajyrq1.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<83zjnextyg.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<83ppoaxfu6.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<83fvp5xzk0.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<"<83mwjcx1i9.fsf"@gnu.org>> <> <<52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu>> <<"<8338l4w5pj.fsf"@gnu.org>> <<7b8ccac4-1887-406c-bed8-6b58a761897a@default>> <<83iotzv5q0.fsf@gnu.org>> <9452eaac-216d-4f87-9f90-6428d85650d1@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388879180 4759 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 23:46:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: grfz@gmx.de, 16292@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 05 00:46:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzav6-0003hB-OE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 00:46:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56141 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzav6-0004Yi-De for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:46:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56121) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzauv-0004RK-7l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:46:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzaun-0007ja-UA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:46:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzaun-0007jW-QE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:46:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzaun-0000e8-J2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:46:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16292-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16292.13888791182418 (code B ref 16292); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 23:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16292) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 23:45:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34659 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzau5-0000cu-HS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:49297) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzau4-0000cn-2H for 16292@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 18:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497A439E8106; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:45:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gX2nt8I0EaYv; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-108-0-233-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.0.233.62]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BDA6C39E8008; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:45:14 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <9452eaac-216d-4f87-9f90-6428d85650d1@default> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82958 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > it seems that in this case it means that more and more Emacs users > will get worse Info behavior in Emacs, as more and more builders > move to a more recent Texinfo/makeinfo. It's temporary, because we're in a feature freeze and don't want to install the necessary feature until after the next release. The next release should use Texinfo 4 to build the tarball, so its info files should still use quotes `like this', and there shouldn't be a regression. After the feature freeze is over, we can install the necessary feature and switch to the new Texinfo, which quotes ‘like this’, so there still won't be a regression. The new feature will let installers choose to quote 'like this' if they like (which *will* be a regression from your point of view), but that'll be an option that you won't have to choose.