From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 12:53:26 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <52C874C6.50107@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> <52C0E734.4090403@cs.ucla.edu> <83sita1cbw.fsf@gnu.org> <52C1C456.2080004@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvpa16kh.fsf@gnu.org> <52C25D07.80808@cs.ucla.edu> <8338l91l2t.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4C95C.2010905@cs.ucla.edu> <837gajyrq1.fsf@gnu.org> <52C4F008.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> <83zjnextyg.fsf@gnu.org> <52C5BDD1.2050009@cs.ucla.edu> <83ppoaxfu6.fsf@gnu.org> <52C607DA.3090009@cs.ucla.edu> <83fvp5xzk0.fsf@gnu.org> <52C6F2C5.10505@cs.ucla.edu> <83mwjcx1i9.fsf@gnu.org> <52C750C4.6040006@cs.ucla.edu> <52C849DD.7020902@cs.ucla.edu> <83ob3rv7bl.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; 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Sat, 4 Jan 2014 12:53:26 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83ob3rv7bl.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82944 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:50:21 -0800 >> From: Paul Eggert >> >> Defaulting to ASCII in all platforms would leave the original >> bug unfixed by default on all installations, causing the >> regression from `foo' to 'foo' that Drew Adams complained of. > > That's not an Emacs problem. The Texinfo developers decided to make > that change, and they followed the GNU Coding Standards. Emacs needs > to adapt, as the rest of the GNU project did. If you think this is a > step backwards Defaulting to ASCII in all platforms would not be not a Texinfo problem, as the ASCII transformation in the proposed patch is an Emacs-only hack. No other package uses it, or is likely to. Texinfo has an established method to avoid the regression, namely to use UTF-8 quote symbols, and Emacs could easily adopt this method, just as other GNU programs have.