From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Caleb Wakeman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16190: 23.4; M-x captialize-word works incorrectly Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 00:35:41 -0500 Message-ID: <52B7CBAD.8080605@twcny.rr.com> References: <52AA8710.4030706@twcny.rr.com> <83sitpbis9.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppotuti1.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <83haa4bubq.fsf@gnu.org> <52B7BA11.10004@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: caleb@compwizard.net NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387807069 14882 80.91.229.3 (23 Dec 2013 13:57:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:57:49 +0000 (UTC) To: 16190@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 23 14:57:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv613-0002Gn-7z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:57:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33691 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv612-0003NP-VE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:57:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43927) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv60M-0002dZ-Vf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv60F-0002kW-ME for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv60F-0002kR-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv60E-0000MF-LT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Caleb Wakeman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16190 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 16190-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16190.13878070151361 (code B ref 16190); Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16190) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2013 13:56:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35498 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv606-0000Ls-8G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:56:54 -0500 Original-Received: from cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.166.225]:25128 helo=cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vv5zx-0000LV-Ga for 16190@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 08:56:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [24.58.56.153] ([24.58.56.153:39920] helo=[192.168.168.44]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CB/0D-15079-C1148B25; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:56:44 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <52B7BA11.10004@twcny.rr.com> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82435 Archived-At: It occurred to me that there may be two separate "bugs", and me conflating them. First is "M-x capitalize-word has an incorrect docstring". That's been fixed (or I should say, I take your word for it). Second is "M-x capitalize-word does the wrong thing". Whether that's a bug may be open to debate (I think it is a bug, or at least a problem, obviously), but that hasn't changed. On 12/22/2013 11:20 PM, Caleb Wakeman wrote: > (paraphrased quotes) > >>> That's the intended behavior > >> Then its docstring is incorrect > > Fair enough, fixed > > Erm, well... > > I've had several days to think it over, and I don't agree [that it's > fixed]. Yes, the docstring is (was) incorrect; and if it hadn't been > incorrect, I wouldn't have reported it as a bug. > > However, the function would still be doing 'The Wrong Thing' (for me, I > can imagine that cases exist where this isn't), and if I ever used it > again, it would only be because I forgot that it didn't do what I expected. > > I think this is also the point where if I want something more done, I > really should do it myself. I'd take it on for sure if it were in > elisp. I dunno if I could do it in C. > > This seems reasonable as a 'workaround' fix, though. > > [I'd agree that "Severity: minor" is correct.] > > (I can re-create my mental state leading up to actually sending the bug > report, or share my mental image of what the function does, if either of > those would be helpful.)