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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78896 Archived-At: Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 12:10:16AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> That's because *you* like electric-indent-mode. Not because C is special. >>> Electric indentation is more useful in a language like C than it is in >>> something like Python --- C has a richer set of brace characters. > >> Right: Python is indeed special because fully automatic indentation is >> not really possible. But C is not special in this respect. > > I.e., electric indentation needs to be off in Python. > >>> cc-mode's sophisticated syntactic indentation is an Emacs "killer feature". > >> The "sophisticated syntactic indentation" is also a killer feature for >> Octave users, SML users, Lisp users, Javascript users, ... > > I.e., electric indentation needs to be on in C, Octave, ..... > >>> Anyway, we should be showcasing it by default, using electric >>> indentation, instead of hiding it behind configuration because users >>> might want to lobotomize their indentation by rebinding . > >> That's arguing for changing the global default of electric-indent-mode. > > The global default should be On for C and Off for Python. > Agreed, learned this for now, thanks all, Andreas