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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
To: 15478@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15478: cc-mode does not obey electric-indent-mode
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 07:56:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524D06F9.3020804@easy-emacs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwveh83gfr7.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

Am 03.10.2013 06:10, schrieb Stefan Monnier:
>>> That's because *you* like electric-indent-mode.  Not because C is special.
>> Electric indentation is more useful in a language like C than it is in
>> something like Python --- C has a richer set of brace characters.
>
> Right: Python is indeed special because fully automatic indentation is
> not really possible.  But C is not special in this respect.
>
>> cc-mode's sophisticated syntactic indentation is an Emacs "killer feature".
>
> The "sophisticated syntactic indentation" is also a killer feature for
> Octave users, SML users, Lisp users, Javascript users, ...
>
>> Anyway, we should be showcasing it by default, using electric
>> indentation, instead of hiding it behind configuration because users
>> might want to lobotomize their indentation by rebinding <tab>.
>
> That's arguing for changing the global default of electric-indent-mode.
>
> Whereas this bug report is about changing cc-mode to follow the
> global preference, whichever way it's set.
>
>
>          Stefan
>
>
>
>

Experience from python-mode says: better keep electric-stuff and common indent apart.

Being aware new users might be attracted by these shiny and useful features, for Emacs beginners
a lot of surprises may result.

IMHO that's part of the "steep learning curve", Emacs is often blamed of - too much electric stuff for beginners.

Rather tell at README and Info what to activate once it works.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-03  5:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-28 18:10 bug#15478: cc-mode does not obey electric-indent-mode Stefan Monnier
2013-09-28 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-29  3:02   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-29  9:10     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-30 18:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-02 20:07         ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03  1:50           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  2:46             ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-03  4:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  4:13                 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-03  4:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03  5:56                 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2013-10-03  6:31                   ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-03 15:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-03 13:15                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-03 15:04                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03 17:40                     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-03  9:45                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 14:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-03 17:45                   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-03 10:56             ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 14:32               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-04 21:21                 ` Josh
2013-10-05 16:50                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-06 17:45                     ` Josh
2013-10-07 13:11                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-07 21:23                         ` Josh
2013-10-09 17:55                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 11:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-03 17:43   ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-05 17:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-06  1:10   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-06  2:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-06  5:04       ` Josh
2013-10-07  9:39         ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]         ` <20131007093859.GA3859@acm.acm>
2013-10-07 16:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-07 21:17             ` Josh
2013-10-08  6:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-08 15:59                 ` Josh
2013-10-09 17:32               ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]               ` <20131009173206.GA2610@acm.acm>
2013-10-10 19:11                 ` Josh
2013-10-06 17:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-12 14:54         ` bug#15596: Let's improve the default workings of electric-indent-mode Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-12 16:35           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 12:36             ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-10-14  2:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 10:30     ` bug#15478: cc-mode does not obey electric-indent-mode Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]     ` <20131007103041.GB3859@acm.acm>
2013-10-07 16:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 20:37         ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]         ` <20131007203738.GA3099@acm.acm>
2013-10-07 23:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-05 17:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-02-17 19:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found] ` <20140217190249.GB4173@acm.acm>
2014-02-18  0:04   ` Stefan Monnier

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