From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:12:22 +0200 Message-ID: <51F78376.8060403@gmx.at> References: <83a9ltun54.fsf@gnu.org> <837ggxukjt.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafx3wzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83vc45xuht.fsf@gnu.org> <83li4uv3en.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafhvnjd.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqodzll1.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3C056.2040706@gmx.at> <838v0syx2y.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3CB7C.1030005@gmx.at> <8361vwyq7f.fsf@gnu.org> <51F4D8E4.3010907@gmx.at> <8338qyzq55.fsf@gnu.org> <51F61FCC.9090008@gmx.at> <83wqo9xu9g.fsf@gnu.org> <51F69F47.7060201@gmx.at> <83hafdxldu.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375175602 12110 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2013 09:13:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 14841@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 11:13:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V45ze-0000Ne-Vd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:13:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41503 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V45ze-0004Dm-HG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39509) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V45zU-00049o-8w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V45zK-0004kp-Vs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V45zK-0004kl-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:13:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V45zJ-0000qB-UZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:13:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14841 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14841-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14841.13751755633146 (code B ref 14841); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2013 09:12:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V45yz-0000of-RD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:53755) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V45yw-0000o1-FB for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.47.57.78] ([62.47.57.78]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Mg4FJ-1UgoNB1XFt-00NSXY for <14841@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:12:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83hafdxldu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eNCyCb+v0GpHwQNCb1b147FWf0iK3CFGqiP/KkDLYvVUDDzyICa sfEh6UvzqjHPyqscp/Sn4a2NMUDHWseJ89F0FUuyR+3ychTVJ/VsXtuvNdeORiLxvOL6kUp TvAwhgLVfLDkY3YUjAmq9ub9ZphjDFbAyEHFildkbQwnaGg02Ii4UMhZOaaX8AUaMXwBb0W SH1eNaZR/HdadbKobJb6Q== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76791 Archived-At: >> For some reason, using -mm gives me a frame _with_ outer borders while >> adding (fullscreen . maximized) to `initial-frame-alist' gets me a frame >> _without_ outer borders. What do you get? > > I get the same effect with both, which is a frame _with_ outer > borders. But this is XP, and I think I saw a frame without borders on > Windows 7. Will check. I'm on XP and I've never seen another application that shows the sizing borders for a maximized window. Do you? >> On the Web you can find a quite remarkable number of proposals how to >> get an initially maximized frame (not only on Windows, IIUC). > > Maximized _and_ hidden? Any pointers? Just maximized. martin