From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kim Storm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11954: 24.1.50; Ido in dired buffers Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:36:14 +0200 Message-ID: <51DEDEFE.6000200@cua.dk> References: <871ukbvss0.fsf@math.ethz.ch> <51DE70BB.8080804@cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373560632 17660 80.91.229.3 (11 Jul 2013 16:37:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11954@debbugs.gnu.org, Marius Hofert To: Leo Liu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 11 18:37:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJri-00059X-MT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38685 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJri-0006QT-Aj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJrf-0006Q9-EA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:37:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJra-0000vK-SC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:37:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJra-0000vG-Ps for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJra-0003TN-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Kim Storm Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11954 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11954-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11954.137356058913264 (code B ref 11954); Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11954) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2013 16:36:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48208 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJr2-0003Rn-3B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:36:28 -0400 Original-Received: from ispc3.dotserv.com ([178.20.216.13]:41590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UxJqy-0003RI-Ai for 11954@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ispc3.dotserv.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80E58032C429; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:36:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ispc3.dotserv.com Original-Received: from ispc3.dotserv.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ispc3.dotserv.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qAX7qeMoY9po; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:36:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.1.82.9] (1405ds6-amb.1.fullrate.dk [90.184.79.200]) (Authenticated sender: storm@cua.dk) by ispc3.dotserv.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8632E80266F37; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 18:36:14 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76232 Archived-At: On 2013-07-11 18:02, Leo Liu wrote: > On 2013-07-11 16:45 +0800, Kim Storm wrote: >> As far as I remember it was disabled because - as you type the new >> name - ido would suggest names of existing files, >> and when you hit return, the first suggested file (if any matches the >> new name) is overwritten. >> >> So I think it was too dangerous to enable by default . >> >> Kim > Thanks, Kim, for the information. > > We don't opt out `dired-do-copy' for ido and people seem to handle it > alright. Also `dired-do-rename' provides confirmation query when > overwriting an existing file. > > So I am leaning towards enabling ido for dired-do-rename. WDYT? > > Leo > IIRC this is first complaint against the default since ido was included, so maybe most users actually prefer the default. In most cases, rename works better without ido. And I probably got bitten more than once back when I decided to disable it. The exception might be when you want to move the file to another directory, then ido may help locating the target directory. So I would prefer to keep the default - and maybe even disable ido for dired-do-copy as well :-) Kim