From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Raffaele Ricciardi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14807: 24.3; Enhancement request: let options in customize group buffers to start out visible Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:49:49 +0200 Message-ID: <51D882ED.8070205@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373143872 14033 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2013 20:51:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 20:51:12 +0000 (UTC) To: 14807@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 06 22:51:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZRn-0007b5-VE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 22:51:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56917 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZRn-00057F-4r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:51:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZRh-00056A-Ns for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZRf-00069z-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:51:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41158) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZRf-00069s-1t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZRe-0005Ol-HF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Raffaele Ricciardi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14807 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137314380920676 (code B ref -1); Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 20:50:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQm-0005NQ-BV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41390) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQj-0005Mq-4q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:50:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQb-0005Ox-R0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:50:00 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQb-0005Ot-Nc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQZ-0004vK-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:49:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQX-0005MW-2f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:49:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::233]:37127) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvZQW-0005MM-SD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:49:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e11so2722175wgh.18 for ; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 13:49:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+s11RHGc47sgECUUhKORWJbqnkmpkKQ1wO5Rvq5MCUk=; b=TxAVoPbalz0uku+tVKlK8iyxqKPBxcqxbaFs0HE8QktWzPnN0zRrSnPfgJiXaQYKD2 YWNcFE240waR4nsYlUGOxOEgCvmDtMjMqeQZhCyCDRjQJ0XgNHj0TqV/M4vnt3NVv3Wh XgU9xp2R3IedQQHCGRM6o4yaeMJWMj/oevGd/bJLJKKDuY2xfW7lUMAYn4DtIiymmO9K WApAFKDDInRCRep66aesYEjp7wsOpCT6sphVWVHtsPS1NB5gf8Z9PqZmXZ0SU6L0dmLV RJ2jWNhZatDkuwyUUqhqyPuOxrJcAkB81nMKS3XJAdQ6CxuPC167ke4L0a2ElKexJDcY Ooqw== X-Received: by 10.180.183.40 with SMTP id ej8mr8437405wic.37.1373143791341; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 13:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.71] (79.109.41.235.dyn.user.ono.com. 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76021 Archived-At: According to "M-x view-emacs-news" "*** Options in customize group buffers start out hidden if not customized. Use the arrow to the left of the option name to toggle visibility." Would it be possible to make such behaviour customizable for users that would prefer the old behaviour? The old behaviour let users check quickly what the behaviour of a package was supposed to be, according to the value of its various options. The new behaviour requires users to click on each option to get a glimpse of what to expect from a mode. My guess is that the new behaviour aims to lessen the possibility of accidental edits, but that is not an issue with more experienced users. Thank you for your attention. Best Regards.