From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13788: 24.3.50; report-emacs-bug; report-emacs-bug-no-explanations Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:19:04 +0100 Message-ID: <5128C1C8.4050507@easy-emacs.de> References: <5127B741.5030901@online.de> <831uc8m7xc.fsf@gnu.org> <5127E2CE.6010602@easy-emacs.de> <83sj4okomz.fsf@gnu.org> <5128708B.80705@easy-emacs.de> <83d2vrl3zb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361625586 31238 80.91.229.3 (23 Feb 2013 13:19:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13788@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 23 14:20:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F1H-0000lL-It for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:20:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59998 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F0x-0001Id-0v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:19:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F0q-0001IA-OH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:19:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F0p-00067a-1L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:19:36 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39800) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F0o-00067O-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:19:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F2E-0008GA-Do for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13788-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13788.136162561731702 (code B ref 13788); Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2013 13:20:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45264 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F1V-0008FH-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:20:17 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:57526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9F1T-0008F8-9O for 13788@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:20:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4dbc70f2.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.112.242]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LhNMu-1Udx6S2mCO-00mvjm; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:18:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/17.0.2 In-Reply-To: <83d2vrl3zb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Q0p3b6IXYERb4v0d4fLFLU32bBvMNclcFXs2okEgLNa 05bWxd2GBP9jHs2c4ZsnCZF70ew+orBDdf7BMVpYpdLt/Ip+pX COP1ntRyhET1livfLJU9GDozU8CL82973XXMYOdRM1RPF/6Ijt uicK0f0TKqIaLM+ulQSE1v14rcFooAGNEWe6IpsPQJ7frIn9ZF OfvcKjG3vTIT6mVV+tCGbkeKdGP9K4z2NRylkxGyUeOHtTGPws SBwMyikh3UnU6PcTey1iIZzyfdP6/G6SuISh3u5Z5KNs1lSoqf 5TxsMZJL/SdRxxzc5ZkH6JZfiD0Jjwgm+Vgf4cVf5I4RiYeFZw jJRyyQ8bXfoah7JjZcZrH6nY8qZ02b6f484VyZpot X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71707 Archived-At: Am 23.02.2013 11:27, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:32:27 +0100 >> From: Andreas Röhler >> CC: 13788@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Well, the point is: present implementation clutters reports with directives useless for the receiver. > > They are not useless for me, when I'm the receiver. > So let's consider a typical beginning of a bug report when sent not by a core developer, let's take bug#13787. It starts: This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': ;;;;;;; You really mean that kind of info is useful for you?