From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14940: 24.3.50; [PATCH] enhancement for `dired-hide-details-mode' Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:35:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5126bd37-cb50-4c24-8376-76a0fc44a613@default> References: <42783abc-5cff-41d5-8b9d-e7e641584cb6@default> <375ded7a-1525-4e81-842c-748fa54d9812@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383586643 24209 80.91.229.3 (4 Nov 2013 17:37:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14940@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 04 18:37:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO5d-0007Se-3l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:37:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO5c-0004q4-NB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:37:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO5Q-0004nE-1h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:37:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO5H-0004nc-BG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:37:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48660) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO5H-0004nP-6q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:37:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO5G-0000v1-Jf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14940 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 14940-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14940.13835865613414 (code B ref 14940); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14940) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2013 17:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34438 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO4G-0000sp-UH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:36:01 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:46955) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdO4D-0000sO-7B for 14940@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rA4HZoKH031595 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:35:51 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA4HZmDB009843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:35:50 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt107.oracle.com (abhmt107.oracle.com [141.146.116.59]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA4HZmQK009823; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:35:48 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79981 Archived-At: > > We should stick to a single command and its key binding, >=20 > That's exactly the goal of my proposal: users only need to know > about a single command "dired-hide-details-default-mode" and a > single custom var "dired-hide-details-default-mode". They could > ignore the buffer-local dired-hide-details-mode, since it would be > automatically controlled by dired-hide-details-default-mode. It's not clear to me just what the behavior is that you are proposing. Perhaps we are on the same page; I can't tell. As I said: > But if the *same* behavior is offered by your proposal as by mine, > and if users are not additionally bothered by your proposal, then > I guess I don't see a problem with it. (That's an if.) >=20 > IMO: >=20 > 1. The out-of-the-box default behavior should be as I described. >=20 > 2. Users should be able to set their own preferred default behavior > persistently. To me, that means a user option. In any case, it > means not having to toggle anything interactively just to get the > preferred behavior as the saved one. >=20 > 3. If the rest of the behavior I described is also provided, no > problem. >=20 > In sum, it's the behavior I'm interested in. If the behavior is > intact then I don't care much how you decide to implement it.