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From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>, 53518@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Subject: bug#53518: 29.0.50; em-extpipe breaks input of sharp-quoted Lisp symbols
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:14:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50d26e9c-1b7f-5f1f-fcd6-545403f9e86c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6fk19no.fsf@athena.silentflame.com>

On 1/25/2022 12:50 AM, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello again,
> 
> On Mon 24 Jan 2022 at 06:39pm -08, Jim Porter wrote:
> 
>> I just noticed a small bit of breakage with this. It's no longer
>> possible to refer to Lisp functions in Eshell like so:
>>
>>     #'upcase
>>
>> Eshell explicitly supports this construct (see `eshell-lisp-regexp'),
>> though it doesn't appear to be documented in the manual. Currently, this
>> syntax is only occasionally useful, but I'm working on a patch series
>> where it'll likely become a lot more common. My patches will add support
>> for piping to Lisp functions, so that you can do the following, for example:
>>
>>     $ echo hi | #'upcase
>>     HI
> 
> Out of curiosity, why is there a need for the sharpquote?  Why not just
> 'echo hi | upcase'?  Is it to do with requesting the new piping?

It becomes more relevant with my WIP patches to support piping to Lisp 
functions, but it means something different today too. "upcase" *calls* 
the function `upcase', whereas "#'upcase" evaluates to the function 
object itself. For example:

   $ upcase
   Wrong number of arguments: #<subr upcase>, 0
   $ #'upcase
   upcase

Or, for a slightly different, but more practical example today:

   $ mapcar upcase $(list "foo" "bar")
   Invalid function: "upcase"
   $ mapcar #'upcase $(list "foo" "bar")
   ("FOO" "BAR")

In this case, "upcase" in the first command is just the string "upcase", 
whereas "#'upcase" refers to the function as in the other case. The 
shortest other way I'm aware of to spell that using shell-like 
invocation would be:

   $ mapcar $(quote upcase) $(list "foo" "bar")
   ("FOO" "BAR")

For testing purposes, it would probably also be useful to ensure that 
Lisp syntax works too:

   $ (mapcar #'upcase '("foo" "bar"))
   ("FOO" "BAR")

Just for the sake of completeness, in my WIP patches, "echo hi | 
#'upcase" and "echo hi | upcase" will also do different things, 
following the above precedent. The former pipes the output of echo to 
the function upcase. The latter pipes the output of echo to the *result* 
of calling the function upcase with no arguments. In addition to being 
consistent with how Eshell currently works, this allows you to do things 
like "echo hi | less -N", where "less -N" is evaluated as an Eshell 
command and then returns a pseudo-pipe for echo to connect to.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-25 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-06 20:06 bug#46351: 28.0.50; Add convenient way to bypass Eshell's own pipelining Sean Whitton
2021-02-07  9:17 ` Michael Albinus
2021-02-07 19:01   ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-08 10:28     ` Michael Albinus
2021-02-08 18:07       ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-10 11:33         ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-24 21:20       ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-25 13:51         ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-25 22:45           ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 14:42             ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-27 18:13               ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 18:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-27 19:21                   ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 19:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-27 19:53                       ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-27 19:37                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-12-27 19:54                       ` Sean Whitton
2021-12-28  8:58                         ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-18  5:19                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18  9:49                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 18:27                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18 14:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 18:40                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18 19:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 23:16                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-19  7:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 20:39                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-20  6:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20 22:16                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-21  6:54                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22  0:16                                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-18 18:42                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-19 15:52                             ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-19 20:54                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-20 18:41                                 ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-20 22:17                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-23 22:39                             ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24  9:55                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 14:18                               ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-24 20:32                                 ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 20:44                                   ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 20:48                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 21:42                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 21:51                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-24 22:48                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-24 20:46                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25  2:39                                     ` Jim Porter
2022-01-25  5:33                                       ` bug#53518: 29.0.50; em-extpipe breaks input of sharp-quoted Lisp symbols Sean Whitton
2022-01-25  8:50                                       ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-25 12:26                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 16:48                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-26  5:38                                             ` Jim Porter
2022-01-26 13:13                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 18:14                                         ` Jim Porter [this message]
2022-01-25 20:01                                           ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-25 20:52                                             ` Jim Porter
2022-01-25 22:38                                               ` Sean Whitton
2022-01-25  8:54                                       ` bug#46351: 28.0.50; Add convenient way to bypass Eshell's own pipelining Michael Albinus
2022-01-25 18:22                                         ` Jim Porter
2021-12-27 18:26                 ` Michael Albinus

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