From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13149: 24.3.50; Emacs thinks file was changed outside Emacs, but it was not Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:52:03 +0400 Message-ID: <50F9D213.3070901@yandex.ru> References: <6CDE13E3BCAA4AFAAB8BCE105C6ABF12@us.oracle.com> <874njs19zb.fsf@yandex.ru> <50F3935A.2090003@yandex.ru> <50F41CE7.60306@gmail.com> <50F44E6B.8090007@cs.ucla.edu> <50F484CB.6010905@gmail.com> <50F4FB0B.5070003@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5192B.602@yandex.ru> <50F5928A.9010009@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5CC3D.5090802@yandex.ru> <50F5CE65.9030002@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5D3F5.6050604@yandex.ru> <50F5DA58.3020404@cs.ucla.edu> <50F5E1C1.2040301@yandex.ru> <50F5E9DB.1030309@gmail.com> <50F64149.6010704@cs.ucla.edu> <50F7D358.9030100@gmail.com> <50F86E12.3040707@cs.ucla.edu> <50F8D150.8030200@gmail.com> <50F8D731.5020001@cs.ucla.edu> <50F8D93B.1040901@yandex.ru> <50F8DCCB.1030602@cs.ucla.edu> <83a9s67wlr.fsf@gnu.org> <50F9C009.9060708@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:52:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id if8sm2551481lab.1.2013.01.18.14.52.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:52:04 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 In-Reply-To: <50F9C009.9060708@cs.ucla.edu> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70004 Archived-At: On 19.01.2013 1:35, Paul Eggert wrote: > Here, we seem to have some cases where a write can occur > but st_mtime is not updated before the next stat or fstat. > I don't yet know how to characterize these cases, or how to > work around them. Even Emacs's old approach (allow up to > 1 second of slop) seems like it won't work in some cases > that have been reported here: over 2 seconds of slop in > , and over one minute of > slop in ! Is is possible that the test is measuring something not directly relevant? Like I mentioned, emacs-24 build seems to work fine on cifs in all observable respects, but with this test, cifs has the slop of infinity. Or close enough.