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Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:55:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iw6sm1494096lab.2.2013.01.17.20.55.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:55:29 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 In-Reply-To: <50F869BD.1040302@cs.ucla.edu> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69957 Archived-At: On 18.01.2013 1:14, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 01/17/13 02:32, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> I think we need this to work without requiring the user to customize a variable. > > I agree. But I would rather avoid having Emacs assume > that file system time stamps can be off by several seconds, > since that'll cause Emacs to miss changes that it should report. I'd like to report that after shutdown, reboot and whatever, my yesterday's build of emacs-24 on Ubuntu is again buggy on vboxsf. But it still works fine in the cifs-mounted folder, so if all else fails, I guess we can still revert the commit I mentioned previously and recommend people to avoid vboxsf. Maybe then change that code piece-by-piece to see what causes the breakage. > Does the following patch help? It should be applied anyway, > since it closes a minor race even on non-buggy file systems. > I'm hoping that it helps to work around your bug by using > fstat both times, instead of fstat in one place and stat > in another, since the file system bug seems to be that > fstat and stat disagree. Alas, no dice. It didn't help neither with vboxsf, nor with cifs.