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Fri, 1 Jan 2021 12:43:19 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83tus0g7tr.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F27.5FEF18E8.0014, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=TYHoSiYh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=SF+I6pRkHZhrawxbOkkvaA==:117 a=SF+I6pRkHZhrawxbOkkvaA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=M51BFTxLslgA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=94acUeJNBy0JYxnAzUMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_FVE-zBwftR9WsbkzFJk:22 X-Origin-Country: SE X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:197131 Archived-At: 1 jan. 2021 kl. 13.28 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >> But it is what users see when they read the manual in Info, so = clearly they cannot be surprised or confused by it. >=20 > The users also see that in Info manuals that have nothing to do with > Emacs, so their surprise, if it exists, is misguided, and if they use > what's in the manual to request that Emacs behaves the same, those > requests are misdirected. I'm not sure what you mean by this paragraph... but it sounds like we = agree, which of course makes me happy! > Besides, your suggested changes don't produce results that are 100% > identical with what's in Info manuals, either, so how would you > explain the differences to those users? Why do they have to be 100 % identical? That is not the reason for the = change. The the manual was brought up to illustrate that the logical = style is not foreign or confusing at all. Naturally I shall perform any = corrections necessary in the documentation. As we have seen, this will = not be much work. > That's the tiny minority of the examples you show, most of them are > unrelated to 'kbd'. Which was precisely my point. The vast majority uses something like = C-@key{...}. No change required here.