From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Antczak Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:55:21 +0200 Message-ID: <506646F9.3090404@neutrico.pl> References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020101060300050900020906" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348880156 4543 80.91.229.3 (29 Sep 2012 00:55:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 29 02:56:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLc-0000Kk-IH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:56:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52974 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLX-0002LH-DE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLU-0002L8-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLR-0004fJ-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLR-0004fA-Js for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLd-0008I0-Ks for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:56:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Marcin Antczak Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12536 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12536-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12536.134888015231847 (code B ref 12536); Sat, 29 Sep 2012 00:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2012 00:55:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLU-0008Hc-1i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:52 -0400 Original-Received: from 13.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net ([188.165.33.202]:39955 helo=mo3.mail-out.ovh.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLR-0008HU-Gl for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail417.ha.ovh.net (b6.ovh.net [213.186.33.56]) by mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 244B1FFB80C for <12536@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 02:55:34 +0200 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.99?) (marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl@80.87.37.238) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 02:55:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.3 (mo3.mail-out.ovh.net) In-Reply-To: X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 5117496552173102951 X-Ovh-Remote: 80.87.37.238 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucfjughrpefkfffhfgggvffufhgjtgesmhdtrggrtdefud X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucfjughrpefkfffhfgggvffufhgjtgesmhdtrggrtdefud X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:65002 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020101060300050900020906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W dniu 29.09.2012 02:46, Glenn Morris pisze: > Marcin Antczak wrote: > >> And then rename remaining emacs.png icons to emacs24.png. >> >> But this would also require to change icon name in emacs.desktop file. >> >> In Debian packages, these (emacs.png) icons are renamed with debian/rules >> and then debian uses it's alternatives system to set emacs24 >> icons as current Emacs icons (if emacs24 is the most recent installed). > It would not be appropriate for Emacs to rename the icons to "emacs24", > because Emacs does not install itself under the name "emacs24". That is > a Debian thing. I don't think eg Fedora does that (?), they just provide > "emacs" packages. > > Also, in the same way, when Emacs was Emacs 22, the icons were called > just "emacs", not "emacs22", so there is no name clash in terms of files > distributed by Emacs. I suppose the emacs22 icons could be renamed to > emacs_old. They were provided for people who preferred the older icon > style, buy I wonder if anyone has ever actually used them, so maybe they > should just go... > > > Maybe to do this properly the icons and desktop file should obey > configure's --program-transform-name option? > > > The rest is just idle speculation: > > I wonder if there is much value in providing emacs23 and emacs24 packages. > Emacs 23 is not supported upstream any more. If you don't want a newer > version you can just not upgrade it. How many other Debian packages are > provided in "versioned" form? Eg I can't install iceweasel-10 and > iceweasel-15, just iceweasel. How did Emacs end up in this state? We do > try quite hard to ensure new releases are stable... 1. I agree 100% that emacs22.png files should go... 2. My proposal about rename from emacs.png to emacs24.png was optional. You are right that it's not Emacs thing to package. So, it's ok for me to keep them as emacs.png 3. Speaking about --program-transform-name - that's also another bug. I'm using this option and --program-suffix to package Emacs 24 for Debian/Ubuntu. I deploy emacs-24.2.x binary as just emacs24 and other binaries as for example: emacsclient.emacs24 And bug is that also man pages should follow these options. Now I need to rename emacs.1 to emacs24.1 and emacsclient.1 to emacsclient.emacs24.1 to make Lintian happy. --------------020101060300050900020906 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="marcin_antczak.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="marcin_antczak.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Marcin Antczak n:Antczak;Marcin org:neutrico.pl adr:;;;;;;Polska email;internet:marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl tel;work:+48513045779 url:http://www.neutrico.pl version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020101060300050900020906--