From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12419: Mouse click changes layout Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:51:11 +0200 Message-ID: <50544F8F.8050800@gmx.at> References: <504FB55D.5030405@t-online.de> <5050432C.4060203@gmx.at><5052450F.8030001@t-online.de> <5052F242.4060303@gmx.at><83a9wsvqk6.fsf@gnu.org> <50533344.2030000@gmx.at> <1455E2776C3F46FCB324B5562F718569@us.oracle.com> <5053485E.70801@gmx.at> <50538224.1020607@gmx.at> <646E419BC4D542A28891D407B84CE6FE@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347702730 26653 80.91.229.3 (15 Sep 2012 09:52:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: occitan@esperanto.org, 12419@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 11:52:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2l-0002C5-7q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:52:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2h-00010s-Fh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2f-00010c-85 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2e-0002J6-C3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2e-0002Iu-8u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp3d-0007Xb-Sf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12419 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12419-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12419.134770273728923 (code B ref 12419); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:53:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12419) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2012 09:52:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34751 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2v-0007WQ-4M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:52:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:42950) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCp2t-0007WJ-Ob for 12419@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:52:16 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Sep 2012 09:51:12 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-47-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.47.87]) [62.47.47.87] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 11:51:12 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19etj1YryheNgyQtPJ7TqaVQTRO6QcEjhWuTf29x3 s2t6fWnLLiYh6w In-Reply-To: <646E419BC4D542A28891D407B84CE6FE@us.oracle.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64346 Archived-At: > No, I don't see that in Emacs 20 (I don't have 19). I not only have a copy of > it hanging around, I use it much of the time! According to the ChangeLogs `adjust-window-trailing-edge' was introduced with Emasc 22 so you should see it even with Emacs 21. >> The "shrink only the adjacent >> window" behavior you mention was introduced together with >> `adjust-window-trailing-edge'. > > Maybe, but in Emacs 20 I still see only the adjacent window shrink. I'm on MS > Windows - dunno whether that make a difference. > > GNU Emacs 20.7.3 (i386-*-nt5.1.2600) of Thu Dec 21 2000 on buffy Strange. Maybe my memory fails. > It would be good to present the alternative behaviors to people in emacs-devel > (and maybe even help-gnu-emacs), so they can make an informed choice. And it > might be good to let end users have a choice (e.g., via an option), if that's > feasible. It's not (very) feasible in the case at hand. > Before inclusion in a release, a change should be available in a pretest > (prerelease version), and users can test it there. But perhaps there was not > enough pretest time. I believe that pretests used to be longer in the old days. > > For another thing, users of a pretest should be informed (at least via NEWS, and > preferably on emacs-devel by anyone who wants something specific tested during > pretest) about new features to be tested. The routines were installed on 2011-06-10. There was plenty of time to test them till the release of Emacs 24.1. martin