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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c17sm7233055lfr.23.2020.08.19.05.13.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2020 05:13:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r1s37xb2.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:185587 Archived-At: > Whatever you're using to send emails, it keeps destroying the text, > which makes things hard to follow. This is what the text looks like > to me: Thunderbird 68.11.0. Are you sure it's not something on your end? Because, here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-08/msg01803.html it looks OK (in FF, eww). >> I would prefer using @verb in these cases, but with good font outer >> quotes (printed by the @kbd command) are "curved", so it's bearable. > > So you think @kbd is fine in this case, after all? Well, in INFO, go to "(emacs) Inserting Text" and "(emacs) Quotation Marks" and see for yourself. Maybe we should stick to @kbd until someone writes it looks confusing in these cases. > If there's anything remaining you think should be done here, could > you spin new patches and explain each change you want to make? By "here" do you mean BASIC.TEXI or all changes? Let's make the decision about whether to use or not @verb, then I could update DIFFs. S. U.