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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 12170@debbugs.gnu.org, Bill Brodie <wbrodie@panix.com>
Subject: bug#12170: save-excursion fails boundary case with recenter
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:46:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50253AEF.4020705@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4noag5if.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

 > As mentioned by Martin, this is a misunderstanding about what
 > save-excursion does and what `point' is.

As a matter of fact, I thought so initially but did not mention it.

 > Every buffer can have many different `point's (it basically has one per
 > window, accessible via `window-point' and changeable via
 > `set-window-point', plus one for itself, called `point').
 > `save-excursion' preserves only `point'.
 > `recenter' changes `window-point'.

The scenario shows up with one single window showing that buffer.

 > But `point' and `window-point' are linked (point is set to window-point
 > and vice-versa in various occasions), so they're often confused.
 >
 > It seems your real problem is not that `point' changes but that the
 > cursor ends up in a different position than the one you wanted (the
 > cursor position, is represented by `window-point' rather than by
 > `point'), right?
 >
 > If so, you want to preserve window-point.  And there's nothing quite
 > like save-excursion to preserve window-point.  You can try
 > save-window-excursion, tho it will do a lot more than you asked for.
 > Or otherwise manually read window-point at the beginning and
 > set-window-point at the end.

Neither of these cut it.  Maybe the purpose of `recenter' is to
overrule, if necessary, any further point movement until the next
redisplay.  But I still don't understand how putting in a call of
`set-window-start' with NOFORCE t can calm it.

martin





  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-10 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-10  1:23 bug#12170: save-excursion fails boundary case with recenter Bill Brodie
2012-08-10  9:34 ` martin rudalics
2012-08-10  9:50   ` Bastien
2012-08-10 13:03     ` martin rudalics
2012-08-10 13:40   ` Bill Brodie
2012-08-10 14:47     ` martin rudalics
2012-08-10 16:18       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-10 16:47         ` martin rudalics
2012-08-10 17:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-10 19:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-11  9:32         ` martin rudalics
2012-08-11 11:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-11 14:22             ` martin rudalics
2012-08-11 15:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-11 16:05                 ` martin rudalics
2012-08-11 16:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-11 16:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-12 10:31                       ` martin rudalics
2012-08-11 16:27                 ` Bill Brodie
2012-08-10 15:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-10 15:46       ` Bill Brodie
2012-08-10 16:46         ` martin rudalics
2012-08-10 16:46       ` martin rudalics [this message]
2012-08-10 18:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-11  9:31       ` martin rudalics

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