From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15962: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 06:15:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ff8d3cf-d427-47ee-9efb-cef8041879a7@default> References: <<80b4c0b0-836e-475d-9bdc-d4abca9d03f7@default>> <<2daccc5f-1289-412b-abf3-44c2fc8aec52@default>> <<831u23bz9t.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385475380 3033 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2013 14:16:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 26 15:16:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJRA-0007BF-4N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:16:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58932 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJR6-0004hV-Lp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:16:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJQv-0004gR-2D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:16:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJQo-0003mv-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:16:08 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJQo-0003mq-Q5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJQo-0005nn-A6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 15962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15962.138547535822291 (code B ref 15962); Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2013 14:15:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJQj-0005nS-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:15:58 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:38829) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlJQh-0005n5-8C for 15962@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAQEFmu6020000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:15:49 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAQEFlcZ009636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:15:48 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAQEFlgE020157; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:15:47 GMT In-Reply-To: <<831u23bz9t.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80990 Archived-At: > > Sorry, no, it was not M-x but C-h v that I typed. So altogether I did > > mouse-1 C-h v. >=20 > Did the "C-h" prompt in the minibuffer appear or didn't it? I don't think so, but I can't swear to it. My impression was that Emacs conked out as soon as I clicked mouse-1 in the frame. But as I did not see the popup popped up on top (it popped up behind other windows), I cannot say when the crash really occurred. I clicked mouse-1 and immediately typed C-h v, automatically. Somewhere between moving the mouse to the Emacs frame and hitting `v', Emacs bombed out. > Also, if this happens frequently, perhaps you could take notes of the > last things you did before the crash (not just the last click/command, > but also a few before that), and describe the window/frame > configuration at the time of the crash. Sure, I will try to. But keep in mind that in this case I had not used Emacs for quite a while - I was using other Windows apps. Emacs was just sitting there peacefully, frames open (e.g., not iconified), but without me interacting with it. > Note that moving the mouse away from an Emacs frame and/or moving it > into a frame, as well as clicking on it causes a message to be sent by > Windows that Emacs processes. That processing could somehow trigger > the crash. So these details are important parts of the riddle. Yes, it could have crashed as soon as I moved the mouse over an Emacs frame. Or when I hit `down-mouse-1'. Or released `mouse-1'. Or hit `C-h v'. I can at least say that it did not happen when I moved the mouse away from Emacs, to use other apps. I would have noticed that, since the frames went blank when the popup popped up (behind other windows).