From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 00:00:44 +0000 Message-ID: <4edb1435269b6cdaa9ff@heytings.org> References: <87blabpy54.fsf@gnus.org> <0d7924a2-d09f-e2d0-f0e7-6b5ee3a7a7f2@yandex.ru> <192e82f20f5deb690394@heytings.org> <87zgxmjkr9.fsf@gnus.org> <874kfs3585.fsf@gnus.org> <87v987z53l.fsf@gnus.org> <8fba78a42ee78011f182@heytings.org> <80b9aa43-9924-ae07-df60-87dde8c17378@yandex.ru> <8fba78a42eb8bd480d61@heytings.org> <3a17b49f-2a5c-42b6-4375-7544b67fd471@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14399"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alan Third , 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, Michael Welsh Duggan , Stefan Kangas , jasonspiro4@gmail.com, Stefan Monnier , Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 01 02:01:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd4I-0003bc-Pr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:01:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52042 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd4H-0003Un-J1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd49-0003Ud-TX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:01:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd49-0002z6-MA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:01:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd49-0006Tp-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:01:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 00:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1305.161982724824883 (code B ref 1305); Sat, 01 May 2021 00:01:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2021 00:00:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60047 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd3w-0006TH-5Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:00:48 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:60322) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lcd3u-0006T8-Ew for 1305@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:00:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1619827245; bh=7cyq2iAOW3HpTjVEy/3HWmcKXCs++i++RUj+cltjNp8=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=dDPGZJF966g2P73HaOkdTI/mpxI5wASkFBsB6a9sEsP4dH57SswOjKX1vn64Umta4 H+ILXTCxXa1s/J4nTjHLY3Tmsj9mddyKP0L8X65pJNkepEVL2t7IHsIyFhrp13l5g4 G4cdYJd1AfK6FtFV44FIcHZZYeQ3pr1tAzmZJcLCatLIMWNNPDs7fwlLgg9XgM5Z9E 60eZsPpzyYTh8ySb68CShkttlmNZ8zMivTFsIqpIZS/Ej4Adc+EnKcDxmjNfjWfo/R oDT06Gypqv+9IewBKSSU3sHMdJZQbJZ5b7ZP2ADqNQCPeaq09v8yFQaAlCQfcPyIW0 CeVFvK0l4at7Q== In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:205306 Archived-At: > > Have you read the comments? > Of course I did. > > People complain about macOS behavior, and the first proposed "fix" was > to make it work close to how it works on GNU/Linux (except flashing the > mode-line, probably because that is easier to implement). > And the fix used by the author of the issue, and agreed with by the one who suggested that "first proposed fix", is to turn visible-bell off. Anyway, I fear this discussion will never end. I proposed a patch, I'd suggest you propose another one that does what you think would be TRT.