From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14754: 24.3.50; `C-h v' needs to fill wide `pp' lines (493 chars wide?!) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:56:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4be36dd8-7c8c-4e9a-a7b6-b036f624de8a@default> References: <22ab55c9-7ec8-4622-8bcd-f67e5a228377@default> <8738juyupv.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392004636 14144 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2014 03:57:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14754@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 04:57:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzm-0004As-Ql for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:57:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53227 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzm-0006Vj-ID for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:57:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WChza-0006PI-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzS-00054L-Bv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzS-00054H-8E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzS-00005B-0U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:57:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14754 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14754-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14754.1392004618306 (code B ref 14754); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14754) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 03:56:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzN-00004r-Ux for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:56:58 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:38903) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WChzL-0008WN-E8 for 14754@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 22:56:55 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A3urtA029228 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:56:54 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A3uqYo013057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:56:53 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A3uqkV019824; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 03:56:52 GMT In-Reply-To: <8738juyupv.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85169 Archived-At: > Is there any reason why it doesn't just pretty-print the values > always? It's not so simple. See my followup message, after the original report. The bug is really about filling long lines. Pretty-printing does not help with that. E.g., do this: Load file bytecomp.el, then C-h v byte-compile-cl-functions. The value is a flat list of 456 symbols. Pretty-printing inserts no newline chars when printing it. And as my followup message points out, filling something that has been pretty-printed destroys pretty-printing. Perhaps what might be useful (dunno) is a new pretty-printer variable, to go along with `(eval-expression-)print-length' and `print-circle', and which would insert a newline between atoms when the line length is sufficiently long. Dunno. I don't have a solution for this enhancement request. Maybe someone else does.