From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11298: Scratch buffer (Summary of Xah's proposals, as I see it) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:17:23 +0200 Message-ID: <4F96B5F3.5010304@swipnet.se> References: <81397xm657.fsf@gmail.com> <81397tiao3.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335277117 19211 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2012 14:18:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11298@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 16:18:34 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZb-00058W-A4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:18:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZa-00030E-Ko for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:18:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47777) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZS-0002zh-NH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZL-0001OY-L7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:18:22 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZL-0001OJ-Hn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:18:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SMga5-0006uu-U7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:19:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11298 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11298-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11298.133527710326534 (code B ref 11298); Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:19:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11298) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2012 14:18:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50845 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZS-0006tv-QR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:18:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:58578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SMgZP-0006tg-H2 for 11298@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD0B9793 for <11298@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:17:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 27350 invoked by uid 89); 24 Apr 2012 14:13:46 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 24 Apr 2012 14:13:46 -0000 Original-Received: from [10.225.40.70] (unknown [193.45.43.33]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E3037FA06C; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:17:24 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 In-Reply-To: <81397tiao3.fsf@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:59447 Archived-At: Jambunathan K skrev 2012-04-24 14:20: > > Let me rephrase ideas in Xah's post - > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2012-04/msg00260.html. > > The recommendations involve, > > 1. "Menu->File->Visit New File" should be changed to "File->New". This > will create an 'Untitled N' buffer. This will mark the buffer as > `potentially-file-visiting'. Specifically it will not ask for the > name of the file. > > 2. Introduce "File->Save as" will mark a `potentially-file-visiting' > buffer as a `real-file-visiting-buffer'. > > 3. `potentially-file-visiting-buffer' should be queried for save on > exit. > Giving a file name at 1. allows Emacs to set major mode. If there is just "Untitled N", the user would have to manually set major mode for all new files. This is not userfriendly. Jan D.