From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xah lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#631: the M- notation suggestion Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:53:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4F14572A-FA01-42A4-ABB7-52A9197BF3BC@xahlee.org> References: Reply-To: xah lee , 631@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217574458 3092 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 07:07:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 09:08:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOokV-0003Ab-31 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:08:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58073 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOoja-0006ad-Gx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOojW-0006aV-3x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOojU-0006a4-E7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46940 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOojU-0006a0-9U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:3910) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOojT-0006ZA-TN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOojS-0006kB-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7177LLc031362; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:07:21 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m71703sW028193; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:00:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: xah lee Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 631 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121757369826853 (code B ref -1); Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Aug 2008 06:54:58 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m716ssUP026847 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:54:55 -0700 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOoXN-0001mB-T3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOoXM-0001lt-EG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54160 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOoXM-0001lq-9W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:54:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:2940) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOoXH-0005eU-SM; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:54:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOoXG-0003jq-R7; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-24-6-97-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.97.120]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1KOoWu2G79-0005uX; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:54:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX196UntNhD3aQ2pw9xlgxOLnsOxE2PZfpYPDnIN zCtgsBxJ6TqchgquapTvbwdgcRl4wQ4I8TiY6XVFG8+7vO8Gic YHzBC6CQ4aqUfVTVHehBA== X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? 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X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:07:25 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:18951 Archived-At: PS if someone send me url for the texinfo source for the emacs manual =20= and emacs tutorial, i'll be happy to send back the modifier version, =20 where any M- or C- notation is changed to Alt+ and Ctrl+, and any =20 relevant place that might needs to be edited. btw, the texinfo source for the emacs manual on the official gnu site =20= may be outdated or bad. Two years ago i tried to use it and ends up =20 spending several hours fruitless, finally got helped by given the url =20= for a good copy of the texinfo source. (For detail see http://=20 xahlee.org/emacs/gnu_doc.html ) Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84=