From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14233: 24.3; Don't constrain frame size to character multiples Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 06:28:25 -0700 Message-ID: <4F1341DA431546FEBDBDE0E96914BEBF@us.oracle.com> References: <5173B0B2.9070607@gmx.at><51750438.5060106@gmx.at><8C0357F6-5720-42E5-90EB-B83416F0344E@swipnet.se><51762F4D.7070101@gmx.at> <8361zdxll8.fsf@gnu.org><51777DF3.5030206@gmx.at> <83fvyfx3c1.fsf@gnu.org><5178DB50.20404@gmx.at> <834neuvas1.fsf@gnu.org> <517A2FCE.30006@gmx.at> <97FD826D96FF4DAA91192817D475A0B3@us.oracle.com> <517B776B.2080007@gmx.at> <517D1370.5070603@gmx.at> <7843BFD1369F48989C7E86E60FFA0C0A@us.oracle.com> <517E225E.9010906@gmx.at> <281755A4CB9C4DF9A5D2700E4FF26900@us.oracle.com> <517EA462.50000@gmx.at> <022239E9EC0E41E8A1AF6F4C14FF5A39@us.oracle.com> <517F7420.7080204! @gmx.at> <2FCB61519F9546A3BD7C1D9A35B93241@us.oracle.com> <517FFA70.1040! 107@gmx.at> <5180DD22.604! 0607@gmx.at> <51823072.! 1000608@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367501381 16446 80.91.229.3 (2 May 2013 13:29:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 13:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esabof@gmail.com, 14233@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'martin rudalics'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 02 15:29:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZp-0002sS-Eh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 15:29:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZo-0000XX-Ny for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46963) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZi-0000XN-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:29:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZh-0002Qb-5q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZh-0002QX-2H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtaE-0004Yl-Mh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:30:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 13:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14233 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14233-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14233.136750136017283 (code B ref 14233); Thu, 02 May 2013 13:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2013 13:29:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54788 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZW-0004UM-1a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:29:19 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30517) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXtZM-0004TX-OW for 14233@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 09:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r42DSViI027608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 2 May 2013 13:28:32 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r42DSU7j011433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 2 May 2013 13:28:31 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r42DSUjh029651; Thu, 2 May 2013 13:28:30 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.231.100) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 02 May 2013 06:28:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <51823072.1000608@gmx.at> Thread-Index: Ac5HF1jNfORKqph7TxejFqkuUfnxPgAIVmPA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:73893 Archived-At: > >> But I obviously agree with you that modifying a specific > >> frame's parameters via `modify-frame-parameters' should > >> never affect other or future frames. > > > > Including parameter `font'? > > Including parameter `font'. > > > Setting face `default' (and thus the default font) is akin > > to setting (part of) `default-frame-alist' - it is expressly > > intended to determine future frames. > > That's what I would expect. > > > `modify-frame-parameters' has the advantage that it is > > simple to use. And there is really no more conflict inherent > > in `modify-frame-parameters', because of parameter interdependence, > > than there is inherent in `default-frame-alist': You can define > > that option value in a way such that various parameter settings > > collide also, I imagine. > > Yes. Throughout, I've been using `modify-frame-parameters' only as an > example. Evaluating `initial-frame-alist' and `default-frame-alist' > runs precisely into the same problems and should be fixed the > same way. > > > Not necessarily, or not necessarily in lock step. A user > > could want to zoom the font but not zoom the menu bar or tool bar > > (or vice versa). > > So the zooming function should accomodate that. Yes to all that you said - we agree.