From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4041: 23.0.92; Emacs 23: buffer point is no longer frame-local Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:00:48 +0200 Message-ID: <4E8F3040.1060409@gmx.at> References: <20090805001735.1CC041E844E@localhost> <4E745DAE.5040808@gmx.at> <4E8EA522.9090300@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318006932 22681 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2011 17:02:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4041@debbugs.gnu.org, Steve Yegge To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 07 19:02:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDoB-0006Mv-HJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:02:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDoA-0004m8-Eg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDo3-0004lx-RV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:02:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDnv-00004z-OO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:01:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:58607) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDnv-00004u-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDoA-0005mv-Hm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 17:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4041 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 4041-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4041.131800687622183 (code B ref 4041); Fri, 07 Oct 2011 17:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4041) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2011 17:01:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDnP-0005lk-Gj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:01:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCDnM-0005lV-27 for 4041@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:01:13 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Oct 2011 17:00:49 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-56-12.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.56.12]) [62.47.56.12] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 07 Oct 2011 19:00:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19u/Rpv1AFuaSyKSJ7hvFRz9zFP8B6zOrFbejwm/R I72WDjeRHfpHQf User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:02:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52383 Archived-At: >> We'd have to handle two issues: >> >> (1) If a buffer is shown nowhere else and you `switch-to-buffer' to it, >> you probably want it to show it at the actual position of `point' - >> whatever that means for you. >> >> (2) If the buffer is already shown on another frame with `point' visible >> it makes sense to `switch-to-buffer' at some position it earlier had >> on the present frame. >> >> Whatever we did here, it would make `switch-to-buffer' behave >> inconsistently. > > But it'd be the natural thing to do, I think. I can't tell because I'm a single-frame user. The main argument in favor of a "retain the previous point" strategy is that it makes no sense to go to the same position already shown in another frame. But then what about doing C-x b in a window below another one already showing the buffer I want to switch to? > People commonly use `C-x b' to switch buffers... ... and that's why I'm afraid of changing its semantics. More so because I never use C-x b. We could make the behavior optional but I'd like to hear more comments from other users first. In any case this is a 24.2 project. martin