From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9639: 24.0.90; Problem with bury-buffer in minibuffer-hide-completions Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:09:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4E883869.7070309@gmx.at> References: <87hb3thebv.fsf@escher.home> <4E86D879.7060105@gmx.at> <87r52xkp0l.fsf@escher.home> <4E86F22B.5060007@gmx.at> <4E874831.3060709@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317550254 26049 80.91.229.12 (2 Oct 2011 10:10:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 10:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9639@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 12:10:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0T-0006Io-V0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:10:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46763 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0T-0006kK-EI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40083) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0Q-0006jr-IZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0P-0001KP-NB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0P-0001KL-KP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:10:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ1e-0002O2-57 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 10:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9639 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9639-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9639.13175502699111 (code B ref 9639); Sun, 02 Oct 2011 10:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9639) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2011 10:11:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0m-0002Mu-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:11:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAJ0k-0002Ml-4c for 9639@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Oct 2011 10:09:47 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-43-155.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.43.155]) [62.47.43.155] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 02 Oct 2011 12:09:47 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18BhyVvhp8BQ50VWTTOcXWun/zNfgPLPd8N8ze91k bOQiF85qyCAizc User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2011 06:12:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52065 Archived-At: >> This would delete a stand-alone frame and not iconify it. > > That's a problem of quit-window. I know that some users like this > behavior, but making the distinction based on whether the code happened > to use quit-window instead of bury-buffer is wrong, IMO. > > Both bury-buffer and quit-window should hide dedicated frames in the > same way, either both by iconifying, or both by deleting the frame (and > they should share the same code to do it). > > This shared code can provide a hook to let the user choose how the frame > gets hidden, but the default should be to iconify since that's how it's > worked until now (and also because I think it's a safer default, in the > sense that iconifying throws away less information than deleting the > frame). With emacs 23 help frames are deleted by default. So if I interpret you strictly, `quit-window' should iconify a dedicated frame and delete a non-dedicated one. Is that correct? Basically, it would be nice to get rid of either `bury-buffer' or `quit-window'. Having two functions do approximately the same thing is neither reasonable for developers nor for users. martin