* bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key
@ 2011-03-22 8:18 Andreas Röhler
2011-03-22 9:38 ` Deniz Dogan
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Röhler @ 2011-03-22 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8317
Hi,
having defined "C-c (" onto some useful function here,
when in Shell-script mode `sh-function` took it.
Seems bad, as "C-c" should be a reserved key for users.
Seeing the are some more issues of this kind at place.
BTW simply commenting out these keys should be a good choice. Usually
prefer to define keys myself.
Thanks all
Andreas
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
C-c ( runs the command sh-function, which is an interactive compiled
Lisp function in `sh-script.el'.
It is bound to C-c (, <menu-bar> <sh-script> <sh-function>.
(sh-function &optional STR ARG)
If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file
/home/dresden/emacs-20110321/etc/DEBUG.
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6)
of 2011-03-21
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10605000
configured using `configure '--without-makeinfo' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
-fno-optimize-sibling-calls''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
default enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Shell-script
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
<up> <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> C-x C-f <M-backspace>
<M-backspace> <M-backspace> p r o g a r <tab> b u b
<backspace> <backspace> i n / a n s t r <backspace>
i t <backspace> s t <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> t i f t <return> M-> C-c ) C-c ( C-g M-x
r r e p o <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
e p o r t - e m a c s - b u <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
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setting up indent stuff
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Quit
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md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key
2011-03-22 8:18 bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key Andreas Röhler
@ 2011-03-22 9:38 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-03-22 9:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-22 13:04 ` Drew Adams
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Deniz Dogan @ 2011-03-22 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: 8317
2011/3/22 Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de>:
> Hi,
>
> having defined "C-c (" onto some useful function here,
> when in Shell-script mode `sh-function` took it.
>
> Seems bad, as "C-c" should be a reserved key for users.
>
Only C-c <letter> bindings are reserved for users.
--
Deniz Dogan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key
2011-03-22 8:18 bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key Andreas Röhler
2011-03-22 9:38 ` Deniz Dogan
@ 2011-03-22 9:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-22 10:18 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-22 13:04 ` Drew Adams
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2011-03-22 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: 8317
Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:
> having defined "C-c (" onto some useful function here,
> when in Shell-script mode `sh-function` took it.
>
> Seems bad, as "C-c" should be a reserved key for users.
*Note (elisp) Major Mode Conventions::
* The key sequences bound in a major mode keymap should usually
start with `C-c', followed by a control character, a digit, or `{',
`}', `<', `>', `:' or `;'. The other punctuation characters are
reserved for minor modes, and ordinary letters are reserved for
users.
So while C-c ( should not be bound by a major mode, it can still be
bound by a minor mode, and you should move your binding to a letter.
Andreas.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."
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2011-03-22 9:55 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2011-03-22 10:18 ` Andreas Röhler
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Röhler @ 2011-03-22 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: 8317
Am 22.03.2011 10:55, schrieb Andreas Schwab:
> Andreas Röhler<andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:
>
>> having defined "C-c (" onto some useful function here,
>> when in Shell-script mode `sh-function` took it.
>>
>> Seems bad, as "C-c" should be a reserved key for users.
>
> *Note (elisp) Major Mode Conventions::
>
> * The key sequences bound in a major mode keymap should usually
> start with `C-c', followed by a control character, a digit, or `{',
> `}', `<', `>', `:' or `;'. The other punctuation characters are
> reserved for minor modes, and ordinary letters are reserved for
> users.
>
> So while C-c ( should not be bound by a major mode, it can still be
> bound by a minor mode, and you should move your binding to a letter.
>
> Andreas.
>
Thanks and sorry for the noise.
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* bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key
2011-03-22 8:18 bug#8317: Subject: 24.0.50; sh-script.el took my key Andreas Röhler
2011-03-22 9:38 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-03-22 9:55 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2011-03-22 13:04 ` Drew Adams
2011-03-22 13:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2011-03-22 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Andreas Röhler', 8317
> having defined "C-c (" onto some useful function here,
> when in Shell-script mode `sh-function` took it.
> Seems bad, as "C-c" should be a reserved key for users.
See (elisp)Coding Conventions.
The last section quoted here covers `C-c ('.
Don't define `C-c LETTER' as a key in Lisp programs. Sequences
consisting of `C-c' and a letter (either upper or lower case) are
reserved for users; they are the *only* sequences reserved for
users, so do not block them.
Changing all the Emacs major modes to respect this convention was a
lot of work; abandoning this convention would make that work go to
waste, and inconvenience users. Please comply with it.
...
* Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by a control character or a
digit are reserved for major modes.
* Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by `{', `}', `<', `>', `:'
or `;' are also reserved for major modes.
* Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you do that, the major
mode binding may be shadowed from time to time by minor modes.
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2011-03-22 13:04 ` Drew Adams
@ 2011-03-22 13:30 ` Andreas Röhler
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Röhler @ 2011-03-22 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 8317
Am 22.03.2011 14:04, schrieb Drew Adams:
>> having defined "C-c (" onto some useful function here,
>> when in Shell-script mode `sh-function` took it.
>> Seems bad, as "C-c" should be a reserved key for users.
>
> See (elisp)Coding Conventions.
> The last section quoted here covers `C-c ('.
>
> Don't define `C-c LETTER' as a key in Lisp programs. Sequences
> consisting of `C-c' and a letter (either upper or lower case) are
> reserved for users; they are the *only* sequences reserved for
> users, so do not block them.
>
> Changing all the Emacs major modes to respect this convention was a
> lot of work; abandoning this convention would make that work go to
> waste, and inconvenience users. Please comply with it.
>
> ...
>
> * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by a control character or a
> digit are reserved for major modes.
>
> * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by `{', `}', `<', `>', `:'
> or `;' are also reserved for major modes.
>
> * Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
> character are allocated for minor modes. Using them in a major
> mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you do that, the major
> mode binding may be shadowed from time to time by minor modes.
>
>
Yeah, thanks all, see it.
BTW maybe have a look nonetheless at
ar-parentized-atpt, ar-bracketed-atpt, ar-braced-atpt
in
thing-at-point-utils.el
of
https://code.launchpad.net/~a-roehler/python-mode/python-mode-components
With `C-c (' for example I get the whole expression reported, copied,
marked, where-ever in parent cursor is.
These just-one-key tools save a lot of time here....
Andreas
--
https://code.launchpad.net/s-x-emacs-werkstatt/
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