From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1077: 23.0.60; x-create-frame: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: <4CF55530.4090400@gmx.at> References: <003e01c9257c$a385d800$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <009701c9263f$9cce7120$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000001c94cc1$e10e9c40$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <8F1F8998D60341099C4204B7BDD8AD4F@us.oracle.com> <96BC00F728B94AC18A15EA95B66C5248@us.oracle.com> <83zksv5g7j.fsf@gnu.org> <0A475933984F4CDA855D91C8B7639E3B@us.oracle.com> <83fwum5xzk.fsf@gnu.org> <9F24875655894485A414CD785D95725B@us.oracle.com> <83ipzh9qze.fsf@gnu.org> <4CF386C9.5070909@gmx.at> <8362vg9ctt.fsf@gnu.org> <4CF409A3.1030906@gmx.at> <83y68b96c5.fsf@gnu.org> <71C125BECEDF4C5E9F703E5743F76893@us.oracle.com> <83r5e38nhg.fsf@gnu.org> <4CF4AE39.4050007@gmx.at> <4CF503A5.3030404@gmx.at> <820DF2B77AA64BEA96FCB4091B38D281@us.oracle.com> <4CF52F4B.2080509@gmx.at> <6DC576D536ED4ADDB4E7E7824C9FDF60@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291191511 20099 80.91.229.12 (1 Dec 2010 08:18:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1077@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 01 09:18:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNhtP-0006dU-1r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:18:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45035 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PNhtO-00015J-6i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:18:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47423 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PNdiO-00041T-Lg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:51:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNWbN-00038a-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33465) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNWbN-000380-R7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:15:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNW7O-0003bd-9T; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:44:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1077 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 1077-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1077.129114621413824 (code B ref 1077); Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2010 19:43:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNW6u-0003av-9z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNW6r-0003af-Bg for 1077@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:43:30 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Nov 2010 19:49:05 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-39-151.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.39.151]) [62.47.39.151] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 30 Nov 2010 20:49:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/29wIVhF/2U054bZu6hvaW2/x8eK9j8w/zAKGWFo eygy2zWK1bZb66 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <6DC576D536ED4ADDB4E7E7824C9FDF60@us.oracle.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:44:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42036 Archived-At: > Emacs is not limited by design to a particular set of window managers/systems, > let alone the current states of some particular set. Or at least it should not > be - not by design. > > IOW, if a user cannot currently cannot get this feature on window sytem WXYZ, so > be it (too bad). That's not the same thing as hard-wiring Emacs to not provide > the feature. Being able to set `menu-bar-lines' to something > 1 is hardly useful when the window manager decides how many lines the menubar has. It might be useful to know the actual size of the menubar for calculating the size of the Emacs window. But you would not need a frame parameter for that. martin