* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement @ 2010-09-16 20:11 Stephen Berman 2010-09-17 13:37 ` Jan Djärv 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Stephen Berman @ 2010-09-16 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 7050 Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to Emacs?). In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.7 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.6) of 2010-09-16 on escher Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10605000 configured using `configure '--with-imagemagick' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars'' ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement 2010-09-16 20:11 bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement Stephen Berman @ 2010-09-17 13:37 ` Jan Djärv 2010-09-17 15:05 ` Stephen Berman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jan Djärv @ 2010-09-17 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 7050 Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: > Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, > it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the > mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ > (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to > Emacs?). OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. Jan D. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement 2010-09-17 13:37 ` Jan Djärv @ 2010-09-17 15:05 ` Stephen Berman 2010-09-17 16:03 ` Jan Djärv 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Stephen Berman @ 2010-09-17 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: 7050 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: > Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, >> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >> Emacs?). > > OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can > have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). Steve Berman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement 2010-09-17 15:05 ` Stephen Berman @ 2010-09-17 16:03 ` Jan Djärv 2010-09-17 22:52 ` Stephen Berman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jan Djärv @ 2010-09-17 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 7050 Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: > >> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, >>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>> Emacs?). >> >> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can >> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. > > Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and > detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). > Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. Jan D. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement 2010-09-17 16:03 ` Jan Djärv @ 2010-09-17 22:52 ` Stephen Berman 2010-09-21 7:46 ` Jan Djärv 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Stephen Berman @ 2010-09-17 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: 7050 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: > Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: >> >>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, >>>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >>>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >>>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>>> Emacs?). >>> >>> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can >>> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. >> >> Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and >> detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). >> > > Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. In mine (specifically, oowriter), when I start to drag the tool bar, a box with a thick border appears; as long as it stays outside the text area, it snaps to whatever edge I stop pressing mouse-1 at, and the tool bar then appears at that edge, attached to the main window (frame). But if I drag the box into the text area, the border becomes thin, and when I release mouse-1 here, the tool bar appears detached from the main window. I have Openoffice 3.1.1 from openSUSE 11.2, which is "created by Novell, Inc., base on Openoffice.org", so maybe this is an added feature. Steve Berman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement 2010-09-17 22:52 ` Stephen Berman @ 2010-09-21 7:46 ` Jan Djärv 2021-10-21 20:28 ` Stefan Kangas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jan Djärv @ 2010-09-21 7:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: 7050 2010-09-18 00:52, Stephen Berman skrev: > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: > >> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: >>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: >>> >>>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>>>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, >>>>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >>>>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >>>>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>>>> Emacs?). >>>> >>>> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can >>>> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. >>> >>> Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and >>> detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). >>> >> >> Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. > > In mine (specifically, oowriter), when I start to drag the tool bar, a > box with a thick border appears; as long as it stays outside the text > area, it snaps to whatever edge I stop pressing mouse-1 at, and the tool > bar then appears at that edge, attached to the main window (frame). But > if I drag the box into the text area, the border becomes thin, and when > I release mouse-1 here, the tool bar appears detached from the main > window. I have Openoffice 3.1.1 from openSUSE 11.2, which is "created > by Novell, Inc., base on Openoffice.org", so maybe this is an added > feature. OpenOffice does the same as Mozilla/Firefox, keep an unrealized instance of the Gtk+ widget around just so they can use its paint routines to get the right look. They don't actually use the functionality of the widgets, that is implemented separately. This probably helps to implement the same behaviour on multiple platforms. Jan D. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#7050: 24.0.50; Feature request: draggable tool bar placement 2010-09-21 7:46 ` Jan Djärv @ 2021-10-21 20:28 ` Stefan Kangas 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Stefan Kangas @ 2021-10-21 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jan Djärv; +Cc: 7050, Stephen Berman tags 7050 + wontfix close 7050 thanks Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes: > 2010-09-18 00:52, Stephen Berman skrev: >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:03:16 +0200 Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: >> >>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-17 17.05: >>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:37:18 +0200 Jan Djärv<jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Stephen Berman skrev 2010-09-16 22.11: >>>>>> Now that the Gtk+ tool bar can be positioned along all four frame edges, >>>>>> it would be nice if we could do this by dragging the tool bar with the >>>>>> mouse. This is possible e.g. in OpenOffice.org, which also uses Gtk+ >>>>>> (though perhaps that feature is an add-on, not easily available to >>>>>> Emacs?). >>>>> >>>>> OpenOffice has hijacked the handle normally used for detaching. So we can >>>>> have one or the other, but I think both would be difficult. >>>> >>>> Well, in OpenOffice the tool bar is both draggable and >>>> detachable... (but I have no idea how they do it). >>>> >>> >>> Is it? I can't detach it in my Openoffice. >> >> In mine (specifically, oowriter), when I start to drag the tool bar, a >> box with a thick border appears; as long as it stays outside the text >> area, it snaps to whatever edge I stop pressing mouse-1 at, and the tool >> bar then appears at that edge, attached to the main window (frame). But >> if I drag the box into the text area, the border becomes thin, and when >> I release mouse-1 here, the tool bar appears detached from the main >> window. I have Openoffice 3.1.1 from openSUSE 11.2, which is "created >> by Novell, Inc., base on Openoffice.org", so maybe this is an added >> feature. > > OpenOffice does the same as Mozilla/Firefox, keep an unrealized instance of the > Gtk+ widget around just so they can use its paint routines to get the right > look. They don't actually use the functionality of the widgets, that is > implemented separately. This probably helps to implement the same behaviour on > multiple platforms. Given that we want to decrease our use of the tool-bar generally these days, I don't think it makes sense to spend significant effort on something that is not considered important enough to be supported natively by the toolkit itself. I'm therefore closing this bug report as wontfix. If you disagree with this conclusion, please reply to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we might reconsider. If you attach a patch to that message, or announce your willingness to work an such a patch, we will be even more inclined to reconsider this feature request. Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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