From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4814: keyboard and system bug with Emacs CVS current through 2009-10-15 on w32 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:41:48 +0800 Message-ID: <4C69320C.4090702@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281964400 6432 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2010 13:13:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4814@debbugs.gnu.org To: MON KEY Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 16 15:13:17 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkzV1-0007bE-F2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:13:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55429 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkzUn-0006LA-4r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RWaK5ZhRzAmX/kQwYb3DiEW0yIh85PUk/Ll2uCbrW1mCWfKIfsPu8HnhWP3dTuaUFW O2BlkQ+HflN1T/6cOR7Ji1duWjmmLPto7fXOkkjK7pJwcGpNS7ItUrzzI4pGaswsAnJn CGCRY8OIG0uZwOAFPGRUQJaffvbOmV0EC/IX8= Original-Received: by 10.142.169.19 with SMTP id r19mr4506757wfe.177.1281962518021; Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.249.101] ([202.87.221.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm8272744wfd.3.2010.08.16.05.41.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:41:56 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:41:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39530 Archived-At: On 16/8/2010 7:21 AM, MON KEY wrote: > You don't explain the problem you are seeing clearly, > Jason, no offense, but this is BS (and a cop out) and I take some > degree of displeasure in pointing out that; > > - Your recent follow up to bug#4814 was not cc'd to me; My apologies, I assumed the bug tracker took care of this. > - The bug report in question is now nearly 10 months old; There are bugs in the bug tracker that are much older. While it might be nice to get a quick response to everything, that isn't always the way things work in projects that rely on people volunteering their spare time to work on the project. > - The nature of the bug wasn't/isn't a clearly describable problem. Describing the symptoms you see is a good start. Without that, noone is going to waste time trying to figure out what the bug is so they can start looking at it. > Moreover, I did my best to indicate (and document) specifically that > the problem did appear (at least to me) to involve: Speculation about the possible cause of the bug is not what we need. We need to know what the symptoms are. > ,---- > | > | - "GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > | of 2010-01-02 on PRETEST"<- FAILED > | > `---- > > with these two builds known to work as expected: > > ,---- > | > | - "Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > | of 2009-06-30 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)" > | > | - "Emacs 23.1.1 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON" > | > `---- These are 5+ months apart. There are many more potential causes than the few you've highlighted. Since you are no longer prepared to help, we'll just have to leave this open in the hope that anyone hitting the same problem in future will be able to give us more information.