From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 22:05:25 +0100 Message-ID: <4C5C7915.7080407@harpegolden.net> References: <4C55EF50.3080100@alice.it> <4C5645A1.7000500@harpegolden.net> <87y6coby49.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C572AE6.7070104@harpegolden.net> <87wrs8ohnp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C573A2A.3030007@harpegolden.net> <8762zphkaw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5B4E28.4090808@harpegolden.net> <87fwyr3glm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281128909 30716 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 21:08:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, Angelo Graziosi To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 23:08:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhU9Q-0000lA-4L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 23:08:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53313 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhU9P-0000BI-BG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:08:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50169 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhU9I-0000AE-AB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhU9G-0004cl-UB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhU9G-0004cg-P6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:08:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhU69-0000Gr-Vl; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David De La Harpe Golden Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 21:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6774.12811286961035 (code B ref 6774); Fri, 06 Aug 2010 21:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2010 21:04:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhU63-0000Ge-Cf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:04:55 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhU61-0000GY-Kw for 6774@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.198.55.108] (87-198-55-108.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.55.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 264BC683A2; Fri, 6 Aug 2010 22:05:24 +0100 (IST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100620 Icedove/3.0.5 In-Reply-To: <87fwyr3glm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:05:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39294 Archived-At: On 06/08/10 16:28, Chong Yidong wrote: > The main question in my mind is this: for active > regions made with C-SPC, as opposed to shift-selection or mouse > dragging, do we want mere cursor motion to update the selection? (There > is nothing analogous in other programs.) > > I think the best answer is no. Well, select-active-regions was introduced (though not made default) rather before the ^-type shift-selection appeared AFAIK. From my perspective, it would be breaking something that was largely working as initially intended and (unlike with the general defaults change) not giving the option of having it work the way it did* anymore (well, apart from patching it in locally, I'm hardly incapable of doing that). If you do choose to go that route, at least consider making c-spc active regions and shift/mouse active regions visually distinct, so the differing selection behaviour is less surprising (not how the secondary selection is presented in a different color in emacs, for example) - I mean, that was historically an annoyance with mouse selection, its interaction with x11 selection and the kill-ring was significantly different to keyboard selection, despite the similar presentation. * or at least, as it did, only with several now-known outstanding issues fixed, of course.