From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5721: Feature request: Function that returns absolute coordinates Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:35:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4C3EC863.3030803@swipnet.se> References: <4B9E4521.9030909@yahoo.co.jp> <4C2C8C02.1010906@swipnet.se> <4C2D9009.60405@swipnet.se> <4C3DD633.7040004@swipnet.se> <4C3EA59E.40300@swipnet.se> <4C3EBDAD.1040800@swipnet.se> <4C3EC17E.6060101@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279184469 25497 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2010 09:01:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5721@debbugs.gnu.org To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 15 11:01:05 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZKJU-0005Uc-WF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:01:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59471 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZKJU-0000t4-Fe for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:01:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53448 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZKIs-0000ag-Ie for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZKIo-0005lq-7g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:00:26 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZKIo-0005lm-64 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 05:00:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZJvG-0007xH-Rj; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:36:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5721 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5721-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5721.127918294330569 (code B ref 5721); Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5721) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2010 08:35:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZJuv-0007x0-Nz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:35:42 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-b12.telenor.se ([62.127.194.21]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZJut-0007wv-CB for 5721@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:35:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171C0EA04B for <5721@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:35:48 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsM1AItlPkxV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHcZgCDAEBAQE1Lb47hSQEkg0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,206,1278280800"; d="scan'208";a="105668584" Original-Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 15 Jul 2010 10:35:48 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 139A57FA05A; Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:35:48 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:36:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:38542 Archived-At: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu skrev 2010-07-15 10.18: >>>>>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:06:22 +0200, Jan Dj=E4rv said: > >>>> I think your "only" is quite big. Lots of code, C and Lisp, does >>>> that kind of calculation. >>> >>> In what sense can they be simplified if we used absolute scaled >>> coordinate in Lisp as you say? > >> Then they wouldn't need to be changed at all. > > Even with absolute unscaled, they DIDN'T need any changes in the > platform independent part. That would require unscaled everywhere, even in pos-x-y, window sizes, fo= nt=20 sizes and so on. I didin't think that was your suggestion. > >>> Window system APIs requires us to specify absolute unscaled >>> coordinates when creating windows or popup menus, so some >>> conversions are necessary anyway. > >> That is the job of the platform specific code. > > So you agree that changes are necessary in the platform specific part > regardless of scaled or unscaled when we support scaling factor? > I've said that from the start. > Again, if we used absolute scaled coordinates to specify `left' and > `top' frame parameters, we could only place the frame to the position > whose coordinates are multiples of the scale factor. > As I said earlier, special functions to deal with that for those that car= e. Jan D.