From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3643: emacs -Q doesn't fit on the user's screen Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4B56E213.60008@gmx.at> References: <4B56AE30.4090109@swipnet.se> <878wbtdyfv.fsf@jidanni.org> <4B56BE80.6080307@swipnet.se> <4B56CC7C.8030409@gmx.at> <4B56D3BB.4050709@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263986019 5176 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2010 11:13:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org, 3643@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 20 12:13:31 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NXYV7-0006Kh-EQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:13:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51650 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYV8-0008EE-4c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYRM-0006e7-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYRH-0006Zm-Ux for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47661 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NXYRH-0006ZT-CB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:31 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59846) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NXYRG-0001kR-TS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:09:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXYI7-0004iq-8o; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:00:03 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3643 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3643.126398518018129 (code B ref 3643); Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2010 10:59:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXYHj-0004iM-OW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:59:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NXYHh-0004iH-4d for 3643@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:59:37 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Jan 2010 10:59:33 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-53-136.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.53.136]) [62.47.53.136] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 20 Jan 2010 11:59:33 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+6JedhuGy6nVbsmvuMzTs9pge3NtDtVjSW3ulpTz iI3I14hfsE+kZn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <4B56D3BB.4050709@swipnet.se> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68999999999999995 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:00:03 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34557 Archived-At: > It is not that simple, tool bar and/or menu bar may not be an integral > number of lines. Also, if a 10 pt font fits 20 lines perfectly on 340 > pixels, an 11 point font doesn't fit an integral number of lines in 340 > pixels, it takes 342 or 324. > Now most applications don't care, as they aren't text editors, so they > don't try to display an integral of text lines. However, gnome-terminal > and xterm do, and they resize when you change font. Why do we care so much about displaying integral numbers of text lines? With side-by-side Emacs windows displaying texts with different heights this issue is moot anyway. > What to do with the excess? Some strip at the top that picks up the > slack? Now it got complicated. On Windows a maximized Emacs frame initially does not occupy the entire screen here. After resizing the minibuffer once it does by making the minibuffer apprently stretch below the bottom of my screen. So at least for running Emacs maximized these issues have been or eventually have to be resolved. It should be only a small step to generalize the strategy used for maximized frames to arbitrary frame sizes. martin