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X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:47:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:33565 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:25320 Archived-At: Joe Brenner skrev: > But actually, I think I should apologize for giving you an unclear bug > report. I was complaining about the new fonts not being "as nice", > but now that I look at it more closely, really the only difference is > the fonts with the latest emacs are smaller by default. In this screen > shot, the emacs on the right looks the same as the one in the upper left, > but it's the same version as the ones on the lower left, I've just > manually scaled up the font a notch with "C-x C-+": > > http://obsidianrook.com/data/emacs/emacs-23.1.90-default-font-size.jpg > > So the "bug" here is that the default font size for 23.1.90 is > smaller than for 23.1.50. Ah, then it is just the case of differing DPI:s. Emacs now uses the DPI set by the system as indicated by xsettings (http://standards.freedesktop.org/xsettings-spec/xsettings-spec-0.5.html). We do that so Emacs looks like other applications for the same font. Note that the text in the menus are the same in both your cases (large and small Emacs font). This is because Gtk uses the system DPI setting for both your Emacses. If you wan't the old size, either customize Emacs with that font (I guess monospace-11, but you have to try) or adjust the systems notion of DPI (in system settings, appearence somewhere). Note if you do the latter, the font size in the menu will change. So there is no bug here. Well, the bug can be said to be that the older Emacs picked the larger font. Jan D.