From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4367: 23.1; unable to view this png image Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:07:56 +0800 Message-ID: <4AAEDADC.3000501@gnu.org> References: <4AA6F4B5.7090709@gnu.org> <9E679449329F495F8E181F79B03A9366@xahPC> <83d4602j0x.fsf@gnu.org> <831vm9z450.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Jason Rumney , 4367@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252974443 7320 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2009 00:27:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Xah Lee , 4367@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 02:27:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MnLt4-0003Nb-Hi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:27:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnLt3-0007H9-Tc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnLsy-0007FK-MN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnLst-0007Ah-1L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41239 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnLss-0007AN-OU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:60697) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnLss-0007yw-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8F0R0Mf022494; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:27:00 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8F0F3hp020327; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:15:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:15:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: Jason Rumney Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4367 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4367-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4367.125297332719318 (code B ref 4367); Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4367) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Sep 2009 00:08:47 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([61.4.103.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm182458qwh.16.2009.09.14.17.08.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:08:43 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) In-Reply-To: <831vm9z450.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:07 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31100 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> it is trivial to include the dll libs for images. >> > > No, it isn't: there are various copyright issues I would hope not. My reason for not including image DLLs with the official release are twofold: 1. The effort required to keep up with security bugs in at least 6 different image related libraries, and to figure out how to get all of those libraries to compile on Windows (many other ports are not as well documented and maintained as Emacs in this respect). 2. The need to include a lot of third party source on the GNU ftp server - this may make it misleading as to the origin of that source, and may invite irrelevant bug reports. I find it surprising that people have such strong views about the inability of a TEXT EDITOR to display various image formats out of the box. We ship enough third party libraries for Emacs to display all the graphical components of its own interface, isn't that enough?