From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4400: 23.1.50; char-syntax Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:16:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4AABD765.7090208@gmx.at> References: <4AA9F057.5080507@online.de> <4AAB5C4A.4040606@easy-emacs.de> <83skesyx9s.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: martin rudalics , 4400@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252776447 29631 80.91.229.12 (12 Sep 2009 17:27:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii , 4400@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 19:27:20 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MmWNb-0001Ij-Dt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:27:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36116 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmWNa-0000Uy-J2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:27:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmWNP-0000Sm-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmWNK-0000R0-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57606 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmWNK-0000Qv-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:37674) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmWNK-000425-0O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8CHQxqQ023321; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:26:59 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8CHP4YC022883; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:25:04 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:25:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: martin rudalics Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4400 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 4400-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4400.125277579121644 (code B ref 4400); Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:25:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4400) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Sep 2009 17:16:31 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with SMTP id n8CHGSUj021627 for <4400@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:16:30 -0700 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Sep 2009 17:16:22 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-62-174.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.62.174]) [62.47.62.174] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 12 Sep 2009 19:16:22 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+A2fla/VqA0a0EidsScB0hCi2FYz6D+UPFX5UzhW O5L5if6xJGaAff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) In-Reply-To: <83skesyx9s.fsf@gnu.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:27:07 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31018 Archived-At: > In GNU Emacs, characters and integers are one and the same. So the > text you suggest would make things even more confusing. Admittedly, the Elisp manual seems more aware of Andreas' problem and does "use `string' to make it easier to see the character returned by `char-syntax'". > A Lisp code that needs to test against character syntax class should > use ?w etc. ?w is another way to say 119. We could pretend that a person who doesn't know that should not use `char-syntax'. But we could also be more helpful, for example, by providing a link to the manual. martin