From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17684: bug#22873: #22873 (multiple fake cursors); and, #17684 (crosshairs / fill-column). 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Thu, 01 Oct 2020 17:00:58 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 091GtqYE148078; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:00:57 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33tfk1wc53-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 01 Oct 2020 17:00:57 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 091H0sE7008792; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:00:54 GMT In-Reply-To: <87blhlrk79.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9761 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2010010143 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9761 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1011 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2010010143 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:189538 Archived-At: > > Drew Adams contacted me several months ago and requested that I change > > `crosshairs.el` to anything else since he has a crosshairs library on > > wiki, and he didn't want any potential confusion. There is nothing > > better I could think of as a name for the 17684 Lisp library and since > > crosshairs goes against the wishes of Drew, I just went ahead and > > changed the name to +-mode.el, because the plus sign looks like a > > crosshairs, and I use the plus sign as the mode-line minor-mode > > lighter. >=20 > Well, +-mode is not acceptable as an Emacs library name, unfortunately. > The concept is usually "cross hairs", so cross-hairs.el would be fine. I object to cross-hairs.el, as well. Just as confusing as using the same name, crosshairs.el. (Sometimes less confusing, sometimes more confusing - it introduces another way to confuse the two). And "the concept is usually 'cross hairs'" is wrong. What concept? Application of the term "cross hairs" to this context is something I did, but the indication of row and column by two orthogonal lines through the cell is not typically called "cross hairs". X and Y axes in analytic geometry aren't called "cross hairs". I take it as a compliment that "cross hairs" fits this Emacs use case, but using that term for this doesn't spring to mind spontaneously, I think. I have no objection to referring to the feature/behavior as showing cross hairs. My objection is only about the library name. If you want to stay with the notion of cross hairs, yaybe use a synonym for the library name, such as "reticule". Or maybe use an abbreviation - crshairs.el or some such. The aim should be to find a name that won't cause users to confuse the two libraries. That's all.