From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:37:13 +0100 Message-ID: <49635E89.60202@gmx.at> References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <495CE033.70808@gmx.at> <008801c96c57$dcbd5540$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <495DC7A2.6000106@gmx.at> <495F3A4B.2070802@gmx.at> <4961BD57.9020202@gmx.at> Reply-To: martin rudalics , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231250620 18419 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2009 14:03:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 06 15:04:51 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LKCY6-0005mj-6N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:04:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKCWq-0005Yf-Kc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKCWm-0005YZ-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKCWk-0005YJ-W4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42145 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKCWk-0005Y9-Py for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:48688) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKCWk-0005CV-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n06E3NAu029230; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:03:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n06Dj2tf024456; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:45:02 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: martin rudalics Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.123124912223118 (code B ref 1754); Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Jan 2009 13:38:42 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id n06Dcb7E023111 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 05:38:39 -0800 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Jan 2009 13:38:31 -0000 Original-Received: from 88-117-46-106.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [88.117.46.106]) [88.117.46.106] by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 06 Jan 2009 14:38:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/n5vp34hnnUuka2t8xNftXgoMKCjKOTKUUpXwuYI q6vmEs7DMIL9P9 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:03:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23819 Archived-At: > No, I only said that it shouldn't *set* the value in > initial-frame-alist. Of course, it needs to remove any previous setting > in order for the setting in default-frame-alist not to be overridden. To summarize, assigning parameters for the initial frame takes values in increasing order of priority from (1) `frame-initial-frame-alist' which has all the resource and command line settings incorporated as well as everything that has been done via (modify-frame-parameters nil ...) while reading .emacs, (2) `default-frame-alist' which merges all implicit `tool-bar-mode', `scroll-bar-mode', ... with explicit (setq default-frame-alist ...), `modify-all-frames-parameters', ... assignments, and (3) `initial-frame-alist' which may contain only entries obtained via (setq initial-frame-alist ...) since `modify-all-frames-parameters' does not operate on that list. or am I missing something? martin